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BP for Veno

Offline jamky13

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I'm not sure if this has been covered before so I'm sorry if I'm repeating old news.
I have noticed that you made some changes so that a physical build for venos can finally be done.
(Thank you for that, it's long past due)
I would like to suggest that you make it so that venos can receive blood paint buff from sins.
Their phys based attacks are melee and not having the use of bp to help stay alive in close quarters is a huge disadvantage.
And since venos using magic based attacks wont be getting any advantage from the buff, it still keeps balance on that end as well.
Thanks for taking this into consideration.

Offline Jeff_Lord

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I'm not sure if this has been covered before so I'm sorry if I'm repeating old news.
I have noticed that you made some changes so that a physical build for venos can finally be done.
(Thank you for that, it's long past due)
I would like to suggest that you make it so that venos can receive blood paint buff from sins.
Their phys based attacks are melee and not having the use of bp to help stay alive in close quarters is a huge disadvantage.
And since venos using magic based attacks wont be getting any advantage from the buff, it still keeps balance on that end as well.
Thanks for taking this into consideration.
i second this its true even if they were to bp a mage veno it wouldnt work coz the skill only works with melee atks any skills that go by phys atk points it works so a veno using magic atks wouldnt gain any exp but as a gms have test servers go try it out agatio and get bk to us (if its possible to even unlock venos to get it) might be alot of coding needed and take sometime but plzz get bk to us and everyone else vote on this matter plzz :) coz i loooove venos mostly phy class venos allways have loved them


PS. seeing as ha venos are here can u make melee weapons accessible to them?? :-\
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Offline geriatrix

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Veno is not real melee, the option is useful as help against
"mage immune" or "increased magic resistance" mobs.
Therefore melee weapons are not needed. Veno role
is not melee in general.

(If anyone want melee, make melee class.)

Also, allowing BP to Veno would require allowing BP to
Archer with fists.

I don't mind, but it would be big change in playstyles
and in the "spirit of the game".
"Don't think about winning every battle in your life.
Think only about winning the current one."

But reconsider price. You might decide to lose.

Offline Jeff_Lord

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Veno is not real melee, the option is useful as help against
"mage immune" or "increased magic resistance" mobs.
Therefore melee weapons are not needed. Veno role
is not melee in general.

(If anyone want melee, make melee class.)

Also, allowing BP to Veno would require allowing BP to
Archer with fists.

I don't mind, but it would be big change in playstyles
and in the "spirit of the game".
really? ur just afraid of my build lmfao i kill barbs sins psys and all them with a melee veno so the weapons should be aloud like on pwi a veno can wear melee gear but anyways ty for ur input.
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Jeff_Lord-psy-150 Demon
Jeff___Lord-Wiz-150 Demon
JeffLord-seeker-150 Demon
Hedleshorsmn-seeker-150 Demon
Yataghan-barb-150 Demon
Nimmanic-sin-150 Sage

(Making more and have lots more just to lazy to name all of them)

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Offline Shmogon

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(If anyone want melee, make melee class.)

Also, allowing BP to Veno would require allowing BP to
Archer with fists.

I don't mind, but it would be big change in playstyles
and in the "spirit of the game".

Excactly was he said + i dont think u'll notice the difference in Veno beeing allowed to use BP since they cant use melee weapons. It would just be a HUGE effort (if it's possible anyway) to change it, for such low changes... And if i can quote Geriatrix again:


I don't mind, but it would be big change in playstyles
and in the "spirit of the game".

Offline MurfatlaR

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nah i dont think das a good ideea.... :P

bp on venos ...even sounds odd
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Offline ⁑Losergoddess⁑

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Just becase Venos go HA doesn't mean they should be allowed to have BP. You gonna give BP to an HA cleric too? Like someone already said Veno is not a REAL melee class. You can play it like a melee, but it's not a real melee class. PLUS veno's have bramble wth you want BP for?
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Offline Cuddles

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I think BP for melee-going Archer AND Venos would be cool. o.o
Oh btw comparing heavy veno to heavy cleric is like comparing ballerinas and combat boots. Both footwear, yet completely different. >_>
Veno is not a PURE melee class, it's an allrounder that can go this way or that way. o_O Jeez.

Offline geriatrix

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really? ur just afraid of my build lmfao i kill barbs sins psys and all them with a melee veno so the weapons should be aloud like on pwi a veno can wear melee gear but anyways ty for ur input.

I did some research, thank you for that.
For example, PWI allowances can be
checked at NPC's. Or by going to PWI.

Yes, all types of weapons allowed in PWI should be
allowed here too.

For every class.

Some EPW speciffic gear is not enabled on high levels
even being enabled on same gear (lower level, not
customized) sold by Blacksmith, Tailor, Craftsman.

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On the other hand, some gear not originally allowed
by PWI is allowed here in customized versions (higher
levels).

What you suggest to do with it?

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Right now I'm between two opposite opinions:

1. If the game has been designed this way and we
love to play it, why we try to change it? If you want
something else, then play another game.

2. If we were so happy with PWI, then why we came
to EPW? Why we don't play on the official server?

But we have to reconsider one more thing:

Agatio and team tested everything they could
before implementing it on public server. They
balanced all classes as much as it was possible.

Every change can disturb that balance and make
them spend lot of time to re-balance and re-test.

Maybe they don't have that time?

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Speaking of balance: you ALREADY kill barbs,
psys and sins, even without the weapon. You
say it yourself.

Then why do you need it?
"Don't think about winning every battle in your life.
Think only about winning the current one."

But reconsider price. You might decide to lose.

Offline Cocor3

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actualy pataka is used by magical class> if you enable bp that means on a 200k hit with mag  they get healed...too.:)

Offline Cuddles

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actualy pataka is used by magical class> if you enable bp that means on a 200k hit with mag  they get healed...too.:)

You have not read the description of Bloodpaint, congratulations on having no idea. o.o
BP heals for MELEE hits. MELEEEEEE.

Offline Deea

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Well I have a veno and I don't think this is a good ideea.A veno is a magic class you can play it meelee if you want but you can't change the type.I love veno how she is and I don't want any changes at her.

Offline Cortimi

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Yep, I think they should get it.
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I don't. They're already one of the most fearful classes out there as it is, if you go against one in pvp. Adding BP would just make them so much more op.

Offline beardragon

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Venos don't need BP as they should not be getting hit much, they have many ways to kept themselves from being hit. Plus they have a skill that allows them to heal themselves up by switching MP and HP values and a self heal skill.