Take away int on archers, replace with - channel, I agree. Spirit Blackhole on the 150 bow procs far too often for my liking, even if its only about 20% more often. Archers should have the - channel option avaliable to them.Even giving the option for either works.
As it stands right now archers aren't exactly powerfull lol. They can get 1shot by just about anything and at least half the classes are hardly bothered by their damage. Nor do they have chi to spam sparks like many others do. But anyway, the main thing for this thread is the alternative builds. Archer skills are quite slow. Especially some of the aoes so channeling there would help. It would make them more viable against HA, though taking away int completely would be a bit much, they wouldn't be able to get past charms on anything. A mixed gear option so they can possibly sacrifice some int to gain some chan might be good.
About venos, they aren't an elemental class like the others though. Half their skillset is melee and physical damage so they hardly compare to a wizard or a cleric who are purely based off magic.
Ok look, if you don't know the first thing about veno's don't even bother replying. They also have Melee mastry which does the exact same thing but for physical damage.Also you are saying going HA sacrifices damage, yes this is the case for MAGIC damage. Veno melee damage is ALWAYS useless as it is now. I'm not saying give them 5aps and both high phys and magic damage. I'm saying give them the option to play the physical part of the class as it was meant. With the insane defenses here & the way the endgame gear in EPW is set up melee veno is cancelled out. Also before you say it, no I don't mean both physical and magic damage high. If they want good phys damage they would have to sacrifice their magic damage. Also wearing arcane robes is still quite possible, they get a pdef boost in foxform & the mag requirement of armor is only 150 ish, nowhere near the 450 it takes for wep.
NOT ALL CLASSES MADE FOR PVP SOME WERE MADE FOR PVE