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x2 int on sin R8 never?

Offline okiyura

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is it true that you can never have x2 int on r8 chest on sins?

Khale said that agatio took out the chance of getting it...

Offline Lolly

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Well if a Gm said Aga took it out, I'd believe them. But then again I'm pretty sure they would know better than to touch it cause, why even do that? The amount of stuff that would be said would be an overload. So I'm just gonna say that it's just rumors. c:
Orrrr, I'm just being stupid and have missed when they said it. I dunno. xD

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Offline Agatio

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is it true that you can never have x2 int on r8 chest on sins?

Khale said that agatio took out the chance of getting it...
this is not true, no stat was ever nerfed since r8 came out and I am pretty sure that thing you said about Khaleesi is total lie.
When I'll get on my PC I'll calculate all the actual chances for you

Offline Fatigue

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this is not true, no stat was ever nerfed since r8 came out and I am pretty sure that thing you said about Khaleesi is total lie.
When I'll get on my PC I'll calculate all the actual chances for you

It could be Khaled or any other Khale starting player.

Offline okiyura

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its Khaleesi... but EvilTouch cleared that to me... it is possible... maybe she is just trolling me

Offline Nine_FOx

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GM please post a guide where we can look for the percentage of our chances to obtain those r8 stats that we desire.  ;D
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GM please post a guide where we can look for the percentage of our chances to obtain those r8 stats that we desire.  ;D

thats in the secret of the Gods ^^
only Agatio knows the 100% on each piece i dunno if he will leak it out though  :rolleyes:

Offline Agatio

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How to count the chances?


Taking r8 wrists as example:
Chance of getting -int on wrists are same for all classes, roughly 9.16% (0.0916*100%) per stat.
For 3 parts it's simple, just multiply all the values 3x.

chance * chance * chance * 100%

3x -interval is 0.0916*0.0916* 0.0916 * 100% = 0.0768%


For 2x and 1x you're better of using the calculator and put the formula there:

3!/(2!*(3-2)!) * chance * chance * (1-chance) * 100%
3!/(1!*(3-1)!) * chance * (1-chance) * (1-chance) * 100%

2x -interval is 3!/(2!*(3-2)!)*0.0916*0.0916*0.9084*100% = 2.28%
1x -interval is 3!/(1!*(3-1)!)*0.0916*0.9084*0.9084*100% = 22.6%


To sum up:
3x -interval is 1 in 1300 tries in average   (100%/0.0768%)
2x -interval is 1 in 44 tries in average
1x -interval is 1 in 5 tries in average




For archer / sin chest:
Chances for getting -int on wrists are same for sin and archer, roughly 1.47% per stat, which gives:

3x -interval is 0.0147*0.0147* 0.0147 * 100% = 0.00032%
2x -interval is 3!/(2!*(3-2)!)*0.0147*0.0147*0.9853 * 100% = 0.064%
1x -interval is 3!/(1!*(3-1)!)*0.0147*0.9853*0.9853 * 100% = 4.28%

To sum up:
3x -interval is 1 in 315 000 tries in average   (100%/0.00032%)
2x -interval is 1 in 1565 tries in average
1x -interval is 1 in 23 tries in average




For archer boots:

3x -interval is 0.0015*0.0015*0.015 * 100% = 3.375E-6%
2x -interval is 3!/(2!*(3-2)!)*0.0015*0.0015*0.9985 * 100% = 0.00067%
1x -interval is 3!/(1!*(3-1)!)*0.0015*0.9985* 0.9985 * 100% = 0.45%

To sum up:
3x -interval is 1 in 30 000 000 tries in average
2x -interval is 1 in 148 000 tries in average
1x -interval is 1 in 223 tries in average

Offline Agatio

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thats in the secret of the Gods ^^
only Agatio knows the 100% on each piece i dunno if he will leak it out though  :rolleyes:
It's not a secret, it's in pwdatabase. The only thing that pwdatabase is missing for some reason is hidden -channel. All edits I did for R8 gear are in the patch notes:
http://epicpw.com/announcements/patch-notes-v29/msg16297/#msg16297


Also, this guide is accurate, besides this hidden -channel for physical classes
http://epicpw.com/guides/r8-recast-add-on-guide/

Offline okiyura

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That guide was lovely... many tnx

Offline Fatigue

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How much aps would a archer have with triple int on all pieces of r8?

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How much aps would a archer have with triple int on all pieces of r8?

i might be wrong cuz i never reached the max but i think its capped at 2.33
im actually trying it on my archer, but not everyday whole day lol so it might take a lot of time till i get this :D
is it true that you can never have x2 int on r8 chest on sins?

Khale said that agatio took out the chance of getting it...

Just saying, there is a few sins I've seen on this server that have x2 int on chest.

One of them got it on first try too.  :normal-19:

And one of them was fairly recent, too. So, not sure.

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i might be wrong cuz i never reached the max but i think its capped at 2.33
im actually trying it on my archer, but not everyday whole day lol so it might take a lot of time till i get this :D
OR, you could just ask Aga to give ya int armor and test it.