Skill Removal

[SaltySupreme]

I don't agree of getting rid of seekers def level buff, because they are meant to be tanky and have huge damage. why do you want to nerf this class? I don't see that much seeker get in the PVP ranks. what make you feel uncomfortable killing a seeker? one of the least PK class that played on this server is SEEKER.

Imo, true balance is having to sacrifice something to get something else. For example, sacrificing some defense for high attack or vise versa. Psychics have sacrifices to make if they want attack over defense or defense over attack. Seekers have a +40 def level buff but they do not have to sacrifice any attack to get those defense levels. If you ask me, that is OP'd. In the case of light classes, they can hit hard and their defense is lower but mag def and phy def are pretty close to being even. This still shows the "give up one to get the other" system which I consider to be balanced.

[Fab]

Most idiotic thread 2k13  You literally just listed why you cant kill some classes, please get off forums. 

[Nine_FOx]

Imo, true balance is having to sacrifice something to get something else. For example, sacrificing some defense for high attack or vise versa. Psychics have sacrifices to make if they want attack over defense or defense over attack. Seekers have a +40 def level buff but they do not have to sacrifice any attack to get those defense levels. If you ask me, that is OP'd. In the case of light classes, they can hit hard and their defense is lower but mag def and phy def are pretty close to being even. This still shows the "give up one to get the other" system which I consider to be balanced.

Feline do you have seeker? did you used it on pk? seeker need spark or pills and need to avoid any interference to their combo. seeker are the most slowest chan class. I will love to get nerf my 40+ def level buff exchange to chan. you will know why seekers need their def level if you played that class.

[SaltySupreme]

Feline do you have seeker? did you used it on pk? seeker need spark or pills and need to avoid any interference to their combo. seeker are the most slowest chan class. I will love to get nerf my 40+ def level buff exchange to chan. you will know why seekers need their def level if you played that class.

My forum sig lists all my toons and their levels, that should answer the first two questions.

I don't want the buff removed completely, like someone else said it should be capped at +20 or +30 def levels. I'd go for +20 because I stand by the "give something up to gain something" system of thinking.

If the buff will not be nerfed then something should be done to drop their attack, not by a lot though. Maybe cap the amount of refines on their weapons to +8 or +10 if it is possible.

[SalvajeMC]

Ok lets just remove all skills from all classes all weapon and all gears, remove also genie from game thats it   no more QQ... When are you people going to start pking with what you got and what you are given...

[JHIN]

Ok lets just remove all skills from all classes all weapon and all gears, remove also genie from game thats it   no more QQ... When are you people going to start pking with what you got and what you are given...

Leonidas fought with 300 against Xerxes' 300,000 strong soldiers.
OP.

[Tannis]

take out barb tiger/panda form, veno forms, all wiz elemental attacks, all psy soulforce, all cleric heals and buffs, make archers range about 7 meters, and make seekers go full AA. yea.. thats what this is leading to.

[Panda_monium]

lets just keep the level max at 85...no morai skills, and tt80 max gear...

[ryanscore]

Imo, true balance is having to sacrifice something to get something else. For example, sacrificing some defense for high attack or vise versa. Psychics have sacrifices to make if they want attack over defense or defense over attack. Seekers have a +40 def level buff but they do not have to sacrifice any attack to get those defense levels. If you ask me, that is OP'd. In the case of light classes, they can hit hard and their defense is lower but mag def and phy def are pretty close to being even. This still shows the "give up one to get the other" system which I consider to be balanced.

Sage Seeker buff gives 35 defense level, Demon gives 30 or 32, not 40+. Also a full defense Seeker does not do a lot of damage even with strength build unless you have God of Frenzy weapon stat but then the hp gets knocked down faster due to sage skills making it proc more often and you die quicker so it really is a give and take situation. By the way I have a 150 Sage R8 Seeker.

[CrisisX]

Fact: Perfect World was not made to be a 1v1 game.
Fact: It's a bit difficult to selectively change about skills all the time to suit what people want for 1v1.
Fact: If you change things for 1v1 it makes mass pk/TW more difficult for the class you decided is too hard to kill in a 1v1. Among also ruining PVE. (This server is PVE as much as everyone wants to thing it's PVP, it is PVE. My name isn't forcibly white.)

Frankly character skills, character gear, genie skills....if we consider everyone wearing Dragon gear or everyone wearing R8 gear, gear is pretty much equal minus those few players that either donated a ton or worked their butts off to get. What it comes down to is skill...let the mystic spam heal themselves, big deal they can't attack while doing that so just build chi off them or walk away from a pointless fight. Like what 1% of the server even plays mystics.
Skills and classes all meant for mass pvp not 1v1 lets bs around and see which class is better junk, by all rights most these classes shouldn't be able to solo a barb, they're the tank class for a reason. Yet it's possible.
Mass pvp/TW > 1v1 and is what this game was meant for xD (I've 1v1'd plenty and just find it boring and really doesn't say who's better then who and who really cares, having fun > being better then someone else)

[Fab]

Like what 1% of the server even plays mystics.

You'd be surprised about how the mystic population grew lately 

[Nine_FOx]

are you suggesting this nerf ideas about seeker, because they increase their population in mass pk? please make seeker be killed by wand of cleric 1-2 hit. that what you guys want. no more tanky seeker.

[Elly]

Why revive a month old thread?

[yunie1]

My forum sig lists all my toons and their levels, that should answer the first two questions.

I don't want the buff removed completely, like someone else said it should be capped at +20 or +30 def levels. I'd go for +20 because I stand by the "give something up to gain something" system of thinking.

If the buff will not be nerfed then something should be done to drop their attack, not by a lot though. Maybe cap the amount of refines on their weapons to +8 or +10 if it is possible.

Seekers are fine. If people can find a way around them, then I must say it's really because they don't know what are they doing and I never say this with the "OP" classes. None of the ideas in the original post are going to happen so give up on this. :<

Why revive a month old thread?

Aw you read my mind. Tho the last reply was June 18th and today's July 8th so it isn't techically a month. 

[YouGotMe]

remove the Genie the better thing to do...