Good luck without Fist/Claw Weapon Mastery, and have fun not being able to use your skills.
If people are looking for OP aps they should choose Sins, simply because thats the most organic character for that play style. I'm not saying people shouldn't build their characters this way, it's not for me to say and people can do what they want, however barbs can beat HA users without APS too, I think its just that people don't understand how to use them. Not sure how you get a barb 5aps though. Perhaps by using LA and using demon spark? Just seems to me its a long way around the same route
Lol. of course you can still use your skills even if you are aps barb. just switch between poleaxe and edges/claws. you are correct. still, APs is used a lot by PKers in this server. it's not my favorite build and i don't use it myself, but it is viable and a lot of good Pkers have this build.my barbs are either str,hybrid or vit build.
also...BARBIE TELL ME YOUR SECRET
TolololI have played a sage barb and I know exactly what I talk about sir. Go ahead and re read my post, then realise I was talking in the context of Vit Build Sage barb, not sage barb as a viable build because sage barbs can be good. However even you agree with me, they lack go because it's all about defence. Now go ahead and give yourself a round of applause.First off, you failed to correct me the first time around, fail. Secondly you agree with me that it does add magic defence then and contradict yourself in the same scentence by saying that magic doesn't add magic defence? Which is it sir? I already agree with you, its a pointless stat to add? Are you just mad because I wont share with you my secret? I only have one thing to say to you sir:
I didn't agree with you at any point during that. Not quite sure where you got that impression. I said that you specifically, not barbs in general, are lacking. I also said that putting points in Magic adds negligible defense. In simpler terms that you can easily digest, it means that any defense added by putting points in this stat is "so small or unimportant or of so little consequence as to warrant little or no attention". So, for all intents and purposes, we'll just say that it doesn't add any. As far as your "secret" goes, it's not something plenty of people haven't already figured out. Finally, your use of the "trollface", apart from your mediocre attempt to be edgy, indicates you don't have anything constructive to contribute to this thread.
Lol you did it again, you said that adding magic adds magic defence then said it doesnt. You cant then turn around and say 'but its so small you are wrong anyway' I said that adding magic adds to your magic defence, which it does therefore I am correct and you are wrong, regardless to how small that gain is. I've already agreed it's a wrong build anyway you are just arguing with me for the sake of it. Enough of that I think. I must have misread that other part. As a sage Vit barb I did lack any real 'go' yes, due the the build. So dont think you have come here to point that out for me, because I already know that. In fact I was the one who said it! That's why I changed but thats not the point. You have no idea what my secret is, you may know the secret and plenty of other people may know it, but don't comment on what you don't know for sure. As for me not having any real input? I commented on each aspect of this thread with my input on each build. All you have done is come in here and offend me. So I'll tell you what hotshot, how about you quit QQing my posts because you misread them and add some real value to this community? You can tell me I'm wrong if you like, fine but back it up afterwards. And dont think that your minor offences mean anything to me. I'll just go ahead and throw you the troll face then forget you ever existed in the next 5 seconds. And I am way off topic now. I'll be the bigger man, hold on the insults and Ignore your next post where you desperatly try to claim back some dignity and probably try offend me some more. I am putting an end to this pointlesness right now. Have a great day sir.
Well i feel like ive had enough experience playing with all the different build there are out there for barbs [Tongue] . i dunno if this can work with other tanky- like classes, but here it goes.1.Pure Str. build: (reccomended demon culti)Pros- very high attack damage, and a very high physical defense. leveling in pve wont take long because of your hard hits, and a demon str barbs can own!Cons- since you have a high attack and defense, you will sacrifice dex, crit hits, and most importantly, your hp. that kills you in lower levels too.-Stats- 3 str, 2 vit odd levels...3 str, 1 vit, 1 dex even levels (its a pattern)
4.Str/Magic hybrid: (choose either sage or demon culti)Pros- you can tank the wizzies/psys/mystics/clerics/ ETC!!!. magic definse will be a high one, so will your mp points. plus, since you still have str, your attacks wont be so bad either.Cons-basically no hp, very low phys defense, and you are just kinda odd...you can use patakas...o.O. surviving in pv will be a toughie...so you will need tons of skill!-Stats- meet gear requirements and dump the rest into magic
I'll give you 1/10 because I read it. We're discussing stats and their uses here, we don't need you trolling this thread.
Back to your cage. Now.