Balance

[Burdette]

If anyone has more suggestions then write them here, I will start checking balance soon

[Nea]

Nerf sin ult thx (shouldn't really post it but is outrageous)
also 4x int wrists overall

[Chrysta]

-1 to archer condor, ulti and stun. My only suggestion about archer is to reduce thunder shock to 50%. Other changes are fine. I haven't played that much ok

[HazeNinjA]

and as usual everyone forgets about the Venos man nerf veno pet the bleeds are broken 14ks on max geared toon 
Target swaps in 1v1 is so trash that it makes a Veno in Foxform that is all tankier then a friggin barb 
Able to kill u while watching a porn sorry but Veno class needs to be upgraded into an more challenging gameplay they just to broken atm 

sbs Lv 100 Ult needs a bad nerf if hits suddenly 40k damage non LA or Arcane Class can tank such damage as whole hit i even get rekt on my db
everytime that lv 100 skill gets droped by Sb coz the damage u take per sec is friggin 12ks it should be like 3-4ks and just support the op Class damage 

eas need a Nerf on Metal Combo thats all atleast lower the damage on debuff geting hit as db 25k by an ea on close range witht hat debuff makes no sense to play all they do is ig sutra jump close when u open and auto win by now and we cant even use umbral in 1v1 Events LOL so yeah a class that is supposed to be eaten by db is now 123 them 

bms needs more def they aint tanky anymore they cant barely win a 1v1 unless there geared to the maximum like u burdette 

eps need a nerf on shackle or sog  duration shortened beside that give them a more tankier shield on the skill that is related to mana 

mage shouldnt do 50% damage on lv100 skill with 3 spark its to broken  the leap is fine  

sin ult should be able to be detected by pot the short disapear is enough to cover skills or kite but its way to long and makes them able to cover for minutes and easy re tidal and it is all ready easy to get ur tidals back up if u kite or cc in between the cd 

duskblades shouldnt be nerfed to much  at all its to hard to play 1 and be good vs any skilled player just remove rentless drift and allow umbral 

psychic stun based on soulfoce needs a nerf its way to long and easy to cast to get players into an planned lock if u cast it while the hit u 
stun should be 7-8 secs max  since u can re stun with ur skill on top 

barbs need a nerf on Attack lvl like db and sin  the full str build all rdy do alot of damage + the debuffs that are basicly spamm able on a barb it gets to retarded  
Im not able to tank them anymore this class can tank and burst even its supposed to tank mainly!

mystics just need a longer cd on that physical skill 

[I̶c̶e̶N̶i̶k̶i̶]

Make dartle on demon 100% its imposible to do dmg when it doesn.t proc
Also if you gona make stun 100% you should prolly change all 90% skill to 100% like psy seal and stun and whatever calss has 90% skills

[GINJO]

Make dartle on demon 100% its imposible to do dmg when it doesn.t proc
Also if you gona make stun 100% you should prolly change all 90% skill to 100% like psy seal and stun and whatever calss has 90% skills

ye that would be correct, thing is magic classes dont miss

[Bill Dipperly]

dont touch wr finally in good state after 6 years even tho its a little bit too strong but nothing much it deserves it
adjust mg -dmg +def
nerf wb def
nerf wf all
nerf sage ea dmg broken ass class see it everywhere
nerf ep defense its been broken for 6 years already
adjust sin remove aps or cap 2.86 with r8 wep buff cotd and def
buff psy shitty ass class
buff mystic shitty ass class dead since 2016
nerf seeker def
nerf db dmg
nerf sb all
: )

[..]

Make knock down purifiable!!! Or at least be able to remove it with faith 

[???????]

Adjust gear roll rates. Its easier to get a " full build " on some classes than on others. ( full chan ea vs 3 crit line on psy for example ). Either increase ones chance or low the other one so when creating a character you dont feel like you have twice the work to do when compared to another class to gear it to perfection.

i find it a f joke that wizzards have to roll for cast and still have a lower chance at a full atk weapon when compared to EA on the same rolls

Maxy said almost everything. Tho i desagree with roar not needing nerf and with capping sin at 2.86. Just make 5.0 possible with a farm gear or something not useful in pvp.

Also plsu remember abt furious ocean thingie ily.

Remove new dragon sin weapon or take off its aps line.

Check for debuffs and skills having different interations. Eps hp debuff is cancer. Doll is cancer and black stun is cancer. Make those have more counters.

++++im huge rn that you put this to debate on a public place, this is how it should go, everyone having a voice and being listened to, way to go man, i enjoy that a lot.

[Exforge]

I agree with all suggestions to be honest, even the Magical Shackle one (surprisingly. I'm an EP, too).

Let's be realistic here: that skill is barely used in any other situation except 1v1 and it literally makes fighting EPs unbearable and boring. A few second difference (just a window of opportunity when people can use anti-shackles i.e. Faith, sutra, etc.) would make fighting using EP more challenging. Right now, shackle will never disappear lol. And it's the same combo forever and it gets boring doing the same shit and do something brainless. Having this kind of modification will allow EPs to think when to shackle, and for other classes to count the seconds when they can use the anti-shackles etc.

It's not like EPs will die immediately with all their heals (Aurora, Elven Boon, etc) and buffs and plume shells and guardian light if shackle disappears lol.

idk if im making sense.

[Renko]

Eas stun shouldnt fail since it can already miss

Nea laugh so hard when said it 
If gm take care of that because YOU ask 
Would be funny know how work this server 

[Rod]

nerf sb ult and giv 5 stacks back
make db blackstun not be cumulative 
give wiz ant stun somehow ( stealth wouldnt be necessary if it has ant stun and way more useful )

[..]

nerf ep defense its been broken for 6 years already
buff mystic shitty ass class dead since 2016

Bruh ms has more def than ep with self buff and ep buff what you try.
Any class can tank more than ep this is bs, just look at psys camping white voodoo like retards.
Vit god wf is literally imortal and none talks about it LOOOL even more if an ep camps it.

[forum user]

Change DB's Grief skill into a normal stun or occult ice effect (like dragon trap)

Make Absolute Domain and Sutras, able to make you immune from WF's doll dmg

Make SB's ult able to be purified, and nerf the dmg it deals

Make WB's paralyze 80% chance to proc, instead only 60% (i dont play wb)

Decrease the CD for the new psyc's sprint skill (idk maybe 1min cd?), but make their seals to dont proc, when them are on white voodoo


(special suggestion: remove ultimate skills for every1 XD)

[𝘿𝙟永]

dont touch wr finally in good state after 6 years even tho its a little bit too strong but nothing much it deserves it
adjust mg -dmg +def
nerf wb def
nerf wf all
nerf sage ea dmg broken ass class see it everywhere
nerf ep defense its been broken for 6 years already
adjust sin remove aps or cap 2.86 with r8 wep buff cotd and def
buff psy shitty ass class
buff mystic shitty ass class dead since 2016
nerf seeker def
nerf db dmg
nerf sb all
: )

Agree with most but can't cap aps at 2.86 base just like that. Suggest removing the int bonus that r8 set gives and replacing with def lvls or something. Maybe movement speed.

EA needs metal reduction % reduced and some attack lvls reduced. 

For SB nerf suggest reducing movement speed also making sb ult able to be purified

I feel like DB is fine offensively just need to reduce defense and increase the defense they gain when at a certain range (I assume this would balance it out?)

Feel like EP is totally fine just needs aurora sht nerfed. 

Suggest nerfing instacast sin skills but buffing chill (maybe dont do that if youre increasing sin def but right now sin v sin is brainless (3spark and spam elysium skills pray to god for gofcrit) .) (this is my main class)

For myst suggest increasing base dmg of skills and nerfing absorb soul a bit

Idk about anyone else but barb still feels too tanky while being in str build while still dealing massive dmg.

For seeker suggest reducing cooldown of rewinding gesture and/or voidstep (their main issue offensively is their lack of cc and defensively are too tanky vs physical classes) and maybe reducing some pdef from them. 

For WF suggest increasing cooldown of grudge strike (sage version decreases aps and channel by 50% and demon is 35% while having 3 second cooldown but effect lasts 8 seconds) (I feel like this is the main reason wf feels too tanky in 1v1. I don't feel like their actual defense is THAT bad. Especially since they are basically 1shot in human form if caught without any barrier) 

MG leap needs higher cooldown or make it give 30 stealth and not 31 (Sins can still detect them if reduced to 30)

If you want to nerf WR disarm so badly (dont think you should though) remove disarm or make it not proc on antistun and buff wr damage slightly.