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Veno Blessbox?

Offline Pelnar

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This idea came up in a "Restrict rings" thread. I don't think rings should be restricted, but FeelMyPoIson had a great idea. Why not add a +20 Dex/+Acc blessbox for venos? It won't have much of an effect on most (Read: Arcane) venos, because they don't use either stat, but it would help a lot for HA venomancers, and probably encourage more people to play the class that way.

Yes, I may be biased  because I'm one of very few HA venos on the server, but I'm more interested in this as an idea to get more people to play this way. More people playing = more people attempting different things = more new ideas and innovations for this type of build = more fun playing it.

That, and if you did this, I could use Magic rings more easily without being so worried about my accuracy.

Edit. List of conclusions reached as of the end of page 3/start of page 4

  • HA Venos have low MDefense without Magic rings
  • HA Venos have a far lower chance to hit without Physical rings, even though Fox Form gives them a boost to accuracy
  • Dex provides accuracy and evasion
  • Dex is a useful stat to have for an HA Veno, mostly because of accuracy
  • Dex is needed to meet Heavy Armor minimum requirements
  • The only things that Dexterity effect on an Arcane Veno are evasion and crit chance
  • 20 Dex = 1% Crit chance and 1% Evasion, which is not much
  • Arcane Venomancers' skills are spells that can not miss, and are therefore unaffected by accuracy
  • A Bless Box for Venomancers, akin to the EA channeling Bless Box that provides both Accuracy and Dex would not effect Arcane Venomancers any further than giving them 1% Crit chance or 1% more Evasion
  • A Bless Box for Venomancers, akin to the EA channeling Bless Box that provides both Accuracy and Dex would increase an HA Veno's accuracy and effectiveness in certain situations, allowing for more reliable damage while having a non-negligible amount of Magic Defense
  • A Bless Box for Venomancers, akin to the EA channeling Bless Box that provides both Accuracy and Dex would not make Arcane Venomancers any stronger than they already are
  • A Bless Box for Venomancers, akin to the EA channeling Bless Box that provides both Accuracy and Dex would make Heavy Armor Venomancers a more enjoyable class to play, and would encourage more people to play it
  • More people playing with a lesser-played style of build promotes diversity in PK
  • Diversity is good for communities and game health in general
  • Most people that have commented in this thread at the time of posting have commented with their approval
  • There are very few downsides to adding a blessbox like this, though discussion is still open if anyone has a legitimate issue or concern about balance
Last Edit: May 10, 2015, 08:13 am by Pelnar
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Offline Miki

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+ 1 i see no issue/problem that could arise from this
good suggestion =]


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you gain 200% accuracy while in foxform, 250 % if your sage. Primal skills have no chance to miss at all also, i think that accuracy isnt a huge issue, even as AA veno when i use physical attacks i dont really miss that much in pve. I suppose for pvp you could have trouble hitting LA classes but otherwise i don't think you would miss so much that it becomes a problem.

But my thoughts on HA veno aside, i think this blessbox idea is ok, 20 dex/acc would not be giving you some op edge over others. maybe it is as part of veno daily reward. 
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Offline Pelnar

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you gain 200% accuracy while in foxform, 250 % if your sage. Primal skills have no chance to miss at all also, i think that accuracy isnt a huge issue, even as AA veno when i use physical attacks i dont really miss that much in pve. I suppose for pvp you could have trouble hitting LA classes but otherwise i don't think you would miss so much that it becomes a problem.

As an HA veno, I actually miss quite a lot, even with Might rings. Yes, the Primal skills can't miss, but my basic attacks still deal more damage. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the Primal skills, but they're more for debuffing and AoE. In 1v1 scenarios, especially against LA classes, the accuracy would help a lot. And even when I camp vit mode (as I am presently) with Magic rings, that 20 dex goes towards my base requirement for armor, which would be VERY helpful.

I'm not looking for an OP boost, but this would help significantly, without impacting anything else too much. It would give AA Venos an extra point of crit, nothing else. They'd be better off with BQ or Marriage blessing. But 20 Dex and Accuracy on a blessing for Venos (like the chann one for EAs) would help a LOT for HA venos. Or, me, at least. Though I think I might actually make up the majority of the voice for HA venos on this community, as I don't know anybody else who mains one.

But I'm still not the only one. I know this much. I just happen to be the most vocal of us, for now ^w^

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+1 i used to be HA wf on other servers, so making rings restricted would hurt HA build a lot imo. Plus i dont see the harm in it.
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Won't break the game so +1
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Won't break the game so +1
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You are broken.
 
OT: +1 don't see anything wrong with it

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Game already broken (jk maybe) :normal-8:

Shh! Don't let them know how we venos are still broken despite all the small nerfs  ;)
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its my suggestion im so good
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its my suggestion im so good

Good guy FMP, making suggestions that buff classes that are strong against Sins
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cuz sins dont have it  >:( >:( >:(

LillySatou

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cuz sins dont have it  >:( >:( >:(

Cuz sins don't NEED a bless box, period.

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