Demon better for aps and 1v1. Sage better for DPH and mass pk against mages. Overall, I personally like demon, as well as most of the server. Better hf, no miss stun, and spam bell. Also, marrows aren't as taxing on your phy/mag resist. It's personal preference. Dragon is for aps btw, demon spark let's you hit your 5.0. However, if you get x3 int wrists on your r8, I guess you could TRY to.make it aps gear, but overall I think dragon is better. Keep R8 for mass pk, NEVER APS in group pk. You'll get screamed at. Goodluck friend!