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Improove Channeling Proc Chance on AA R8 Wristbands

Offline Mentalista

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Hi Agatio, being direct, i want to suggest u to increase the chan proc chance on the wrists of the R8 set, now the reasons why, first reason is, im rerolling all my fking useless magic on my R8 to a stat that gonna make a visible difference on my play, i choosed chan, even my wep stones are chan now. Second reason:

Int and Chan are a fking disadvantage, while chan proc is 0.45% and int proc is 8.16%, but we all know that int > chan, because int dont need to be honed, its always at the max, but hone well, if u get 3x then u will need to fight one more time to get 3x 6% hone, AND GET 3X CHAN WITH THAT 0.45% FK PROC, IS CLOSE TO THE IMPOSSIBLE, and this is a huge disadvantage, but well lets see what both stats give to theyr players, and i will proove how put that ridiculous proc on the chan in wrist is a mistake:

Interval -0.5 on wrist(8,16% proc chance)

This gives a -0.5 second on the interval of the hits, as most of aps users peoples dont even know how the aps work, because is easy press auto-attack, ima go explain.

When u press C, and u check the interval stat, most think "Wdf that means? All i know is if i get 3.33+ i will hiero all with autoattack and tahts cóól".

Ima go first compair it using my psy, that got a 0.95 attack rate, then the calc u need here is 1/0.95, where 1 means 1 second, and 0.95 is the rate, and then we get: 1

Attack Rate / Calc / Interval of hits

Those are the regular ATK rate of BMs, Sins, seekers, barbs.



2.50 => 1/2.50 = 0.40 They deal 1 hit every 0.40 seconds
2.86 => 1/2.86 = 0.34 They deal 1 hit every 0.34 seconds
3.33 => 1/3.33 = 0.30 They deal 1 hit every 0.30 seconds
4.0 => 1/4.0 = 0.25 They deal 1 hit every 0.25 seconds
5.0 => 1/5.0 = 0.20 They deal 1 hit every 0.20 seconds


Now, u ask, whats the problem here modafoca??? Well i will show u, but now lets see how the chan stat works.

Its really simple, 10%, means 10%, 20% means 20%, etc etc.

Channeling 1~6%

Then its obviously here, how int and chan procs went managed bad, first thing we see is, while int its always in the max when u get it, always 0.05, no need to hone, channeling is faking hard to get, half percent chance, and after that u still need to hone it, the variation of the chan hones is:

1x chan = 1%~6%
2x chan = 2%~12%
3x chan = 3%~18%

So after u try to get the close to the impossible stat of 3x chan(1 chance in 8millions), or the 2x chance that is 1 chance in 13.333, then u will need to worry about hone your faking stats, then, more ECs spend.

Ofc here, to hone a 2x chan u will waste some EC, but u still can get 12%, i will not even mention 3x chan, because its basically impossible get it, but 2x i already saw.

Then, we need to compair HOW, both stats, improove the characters.

The max a AA class can reach on wrist is 12% chan(2x), the max a heavy class can reach is -0.15int.

Now lets compair.

Here we got two kinds of players, both players got a balanced chan/int

We got the hipotetical sin, that we call Yangster, he have a 2.00 atk/rate , without the 3x wrists.
We got the hippotetical psy, that we call Treatment, he have a 40% chan, without the 2x wrists(3x its impossible)

What means that, Yangster deal 2 hits of AUTO-ATTACK aka F1, per second.
And Treatment, cast his skills 40% faster, what means, if the chan time of a skill if 1 sec, he cast in 0.6 secs, if the chan time is 3, he cast in 1.8 secs, etc etc.

Now we gonna add the 3x/2x wrist for both dudes

Yangster now got a 2.86 atk/rate what means, he basically deals 3 shots per second (0.35 interval exatcly), and now he can hierobug peoples with the simple F1.

Treatment now got 52% cast, if he got luck honing, now his skills of 3 seconds cast in 1,56 seconds, and his skills of 1 seconds cast in 0.48 seconds.

Now can u see the difference? The hipotetical sin got 1 more shot per second, while the poor Treatment guy, burned 50x more damascenes to get that 2x chan stat, then 30+ Hapatizons to hone it to 12%, but well, the Cost/Benefit of that, is not good, and he cant feel a Op difference that he needed, and yangster now can hierobug peoples with autoattack.

Resuming, agatio, i suggest you to improove that ridiculous chan proc chance of 0.45% to a little bit high than the int one 8.16%, because is fairly bad i need to waste a huge amount of damascenes to get something that will not make a huge difference alone, while heavy/LAs apser when get 3x int that is really easy to get(compairing to 2x chan), feel a huge difference...

Cyeay agatio :smiley:







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I don't think this is even possible to do without messing up ALL the other pieces. That and it's not needed. -1

Offline Σѕкιмo

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This really isn't needed. I know plenty of people with -channy wrists. s:

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-1.  Either you have shit luck or you don't.

Also, psys are innately fast channelers, in fact, I think they are the fastest channelers in game, with mystic coming in a close second.

*this is without or with minimum -chan gear. 


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Offline Mentalista

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This really isn't needed. I know plenty of people with -channy wrists. s:


U dont got the point of the topic, that is, increase the proc chance of chan on wrist, while the int proc chance is 16x higher and its more effective than chan.

Chan on wrist is not a even close OP stat to got that fking low proc chance of 0,45%


Now put it 12% or gtfo.


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Why? I see enough chan already.
Plus, I'm wr. No more wizzez plz.
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Offline Σѕкιмo

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U dont got the point of the topic, that is, increase the proc chance of chan on wrist, while the int proc chance is 16x higher and its more effective than chan.

I understand the topic and I still don't think increasing the chance to get channy on wrists is necessary. s: I've gotten it pretty easy on my toons.

Offline Melody⋆

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Please stop trying to compare interval to channeling.
Please stop using maths.
Most times it is not even applicable and does not support your arguments.
Please stop complaining about aps.
Please stop trying to say psys are disadvantaged.
Please stop trying to ruin the balance of this server.
Please consider how your suggestion would affect other classes,
and not just your psychic.

Please learn how to play your class or switch to one that works for you.
Please learn that every class has its weaknesses.
Please learn that every class has its counter class.
Please learn from Anima, Noki or Cynix about the strengths of the psy class.

Everything in this game is not meant to be equal.
The stats differ in probability for a reason.
The only reason you are complaining is because you are having terrible luck getting it.
That is not a justified reason.

I don't mean to be rude but quite frankly,
I'm a little tired of your complaining cause you don't know how to play your class,
as well as your insults when people don't support your ideas,
as well as the drama that I believe you are purposefully instigating.
Last Edit: Sept 29, 2014, 03:43 am by Melody⋆




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Offline Darunia ஜ

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Please stop trying to compare interval to channeling.
Please stop using maths.
Most times it is not even applicable and does not support your arguments.
Please stop complaining about aps.
Please stop trying to say psys are disadvantaged.
Please stop trying to ruin the balance of this server.

Please learn how to play your class or switch to one that works for you.
Please learn that every class has its weaknesses.
Please learn that every class has its counter class.
Please learn from Anima, Noki or Cynix about the strengths of the psy class.

Everything in this game is not meant to be equal.
The stats differ in probability for a reason.
The only reason you are complaining is because you are having terrible luck getting it.
That is not a justified reason.

I don't mean to be rude but quite frankly,
I'm a little tired of your complaining cause you don't know how to play your class,
as well as your insults when people don't support your ideas,
as well as the drama that I believe you are purposefully instigating.
I could just kiss you right now.

But if I do that, you might catch my infection and I dun want that.

Stay Classy.
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Offline Frost

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Please stop trying to compare interval to channeling.
Please stop using maths.
Most times it is not even applicable and does not support your arguments.
Please stop complaining about aps.
Please stop trying to say psys are disadvantaged.
Please stop trying to ruin the balance of this server.

Please learn how to play your class or switch to one that works for you.
Please learn that every class has its weaknesses.
Please learn that every class has its counter class.
Please learn from Anima, Noki or Cynix about the strengths of the psy class.

Everything in this game is not meant to be equal.
The stats differ in probability for a reason.
The only reason you are complaining is because you are having terrible luck getting it.
That is not a justified reason.

I don't mean to be rude but quite frankly,
I'm a little tired of your complaining cause you don't know how to play your class,
as well as your insults when people don't support your ideas,
as well as the drama that I believe you are purposefully instigating.
Read please mentalista. This is most true post I've ever seen.
"My honor is my loyalty

Moko, Apocalypse, Zingendro got easied.
Biggest joke players in server got shown their place.

Offline Melody⋆

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I could just kiss you right now.

But if I do that, you might catch my infection and I dun want that.

Come. We take the risk.

But thank you dear  :normal-4:




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