To be honest that war avatar pet is OP because like a gm, it has this anti stun that will not go away... becomes a pain. I say this because when I used to play 1.3 back then, you kill the Hercules pet or Phoenix pet then... the veno is pretty much done for. This new pet however, is something that cannot be stopped if the veno heals it constantly and the person can't stun it.. Just like barbs having the new mighty swing skill. On 1.3 they had to hope the stun would work but now they can spam it easily....Not derailing Wf or anything... it's just the way it is now.....
what he said, i for one who play veno as a secondary class can see that it's completely broken with this new pet lol.
Tbh, they were broken already when the owl and drake was released, even useless wfs like apawolla and bewitch could kill me if I wasn't fully paying attention..
As for killing pets, put a damage over time effect on them. Then finish them off when their hp is down a bit.
Sandfall and crown of flame dont hit much on a pet with a lot of HP and they can just heal it again, I gave up on trying to kill the pet but the low cooldown CC on the pet is annoying as fck and got me killed more than once.
See, the problem is just there. If I want to purge my target i have to get in its melee range and risk getting flanked by the group of their allies. An opponent can see me approaching and get ready to faith/spark/ad just in time not to get purged. I can't count how many times I've had an enemy archer use wings of grace which I want to purge, just so they would pop an ironguard as they see me approaching. And even that wouldn't be the problem if my channeling wasn't so low, that there is no chance to cancel the purge I've already started casting. In the meantime, an archer can purge me at most random times from triple the range I can purge them from and all while doing full damage.To compare it, the duration of wings of grace is 15 seconds. An average aps archer will hit at least 15 times in that time, if they don't get stunned. Now allow me to quote which means that more often than not, an archer will purge another archer's wings of grace even before its effect wears off. In that time, a wf can try to purge it once and if they are unlucky enough for an archer to use ironguard/faith/absolute domain, they are now without any chance to purge for another 25(30) seconds.
Aww, thanks for quoting my reply. It has been deleted by unknown for some unknown reasons. :sad:Yes, you're right. In pks, people can use faith, ad, pots, or skills to block veno's purge. But this also applies to the spirit blackhole purge, except the purge is completely random. The difference is that a veno can time her purge but an ea cannot. This explains why veno's purge is still more powerful than ea's one. Also, by using spirit blackhole bow, an ea gives up on his attack level. Unlike ea, a veno can still choose whatever type of weapon she wants while having the ability to purge with 100% chance. After considering all these, it would make sense that ea's spirit blackhole seems a little bit more OP than veno's purge, although it is not as it seems. And yes, an average ea can hit at least 15 times in 15 seconds, but only with the demon quickshot buff that procs 50% of the time (we are not talking about eas with more than 1 base aps, since they are very rare). But again, people can always use skills/pots to block the purge, so it really depends on luck in eas' case; but a veno would have a better chance if she is managed to time her purge precisely.
Wait for the DoT of those to hit once, then nuke it, that should dispose of a monkey. It's a royal pain to heal them against DoT's. Since they hit so delayed & a bunch of times in a row.Drake has boatloads of HP though, those are a bitch to kill unless you're a psy, mystic, ep or seeker. (telekinesis, absorb, mark of weakness, edged blur 1shot them.)
+1 This idea is not bad at all, and I agree with it. Archers debuff better than venos nowdays.Should keep it on r8r and lower lvl weapons.
This; the proc rate is tiny compared to a veno's purge. I can shoot a thousand arrows and get no purge. Or shoot 1 and get a purge...on a mob, LOL.Take it away now, while it's been in gameplay for years, and not only will you piss off archers/sins who have invested money on those bows, but you'll get overrun by the next op class. So while it's a good idea, it's too late in the game.
