TW time & server timezone.

[Feone]

Hello,
Every now and then theres posts asking to change the server time to make TW, NW etc more suitable to specific groups.

TLDR;
The short answer is "No, it won't happen.".  As for changing the times on TW itself, they are hardcoded, they appearently can't be editted.

EPW currently has most of it's population in 3 main areas: North America, Europe & Eastern Asia. (Most, not all.)
As most people will know, all of these are in very different timezones.
Northern America is mostly in UTC-8 to UTC-4.  (Most of the USA & Canada as well as some of Southern America.)
Europe is mostly in UTC to UTC+2 (Western europe and most of eastern europe.)
Eastern Asia is mostly in UTC+7 to UTC+9. (China, Korea, Phillipines.)


Convenient hours for TW are mostly between 7 and 11 pm local time. (To avoid work, TW ending too late etc.)
Current server time is at UTC-1. TW (and NW etc) begin around 8pm server time.

Right now in Europe this means that TW is around 9pm to midnight. - Perfect timing.
In America it's around 1pm to 4pm.  - Decent timing on weekends, bad on weekdays.
In eastern asia it's around 4am to 6am.  - Bad timing all around.

Let's see what happens if server time is shifted to be perfect for the other major timezones.

If server time were at UTC-7:
The TW time for northern America would be between 19:00 and 23:00. -Perfect.
The TW time for Europe would be between 01:00 and 04:00 - bad.
The TW time for Eastern Asia would be between 10:00 and 12:00, decent on weekends, bad on weekdays.
Same result. Bad timing for one group, decent for another, good for the third.

If server time were at UTC+7.
The TW time for Eastern asia would be between 20:00 and 22:00, perfect.
The TW time for Europe would be between 13:00 and 16:00, decent on weekends, bad on weekdays.
The TW time for Northern America would be between 05:00 and 09:00, Bad.

Again, same result.

EPW is hosted and managed from Europe, which is why the timezone is set to be convenient for europe. Since every other configuration will still end in the same net result of one group in bad timing, one in decent timing & one in good timing there is no point in changing it.

Just for completeness sake, here's a table with all 24 possible server timezones and the resulting TW hours for each group. (Please correct me if I messed up any of the times, I'm not very used to dealing with timezones.)

Northern America: UTC-8 to UTC-4
Europe: UTC to UTC+2
Eastern Asia: UTC+7 to UTC+9

TW time: 20:00

Server - Europe TW Time - N. America TW - E. Asia TW Time
UTC-12 - 08:00 to 10:00 - 00:00 to 04:00 - 15:00 to 17:00
UTC-11 - 07:00 to 09:00 - 23:00 to 03:00 - 14:00 to 16:00
UTC-10 - 06:00 to 08:00 - 22:00 to 02:00 - 13:00 to 15:00
UTC-09 - 05:00 to 07:00 - 21:00 to 01:00 - 12:00 to 14:00
UTC-08 - 04:00 to 06:00 - 20:00 to 00:00 - 11:00 to 13:00
UTC-07 - 03:00 to 05:00 - 19:00 to 23:00 - 10:00 to 12:00
UTC-06 - 02:00 to 04:00 - 18:00 to 22:00 - 09:00 to 11:00
UTC-05 - 01:00 to 03:00 - 17:00 to 21:00 - 08:00 to 10:00
UTC-04 - 00:00 to 02:00 - 16:00 to 20:00 - 07:00 to 09:00
UTC-03 - 23:00 to 01:00 - 15:00 to 19:00 - 06:00 to 08:00
UTC-02 - 22:00 to 00:00 - 14:00 to 18:00 - 05:00 to 07:00
UTC-01 - 21:00 to 23:00 - 13:00 to 17:00 - 04:00 to 06:00
UTC+00 - 20:00 to 22:00 - 12:00 to 16:00 - 03:00 to 05:00
UTC+01 - 19:00 to 21:00 - 11:00 to 15:00 - 02:00 to 04:00
UTC+02 - 18:00 to 20:00 - 10:00 to 14:00 - 01:00 to 03:00
UTC+03 - 17:00 to 19:00 - 09:00 to 13:00 - 00:00 to 02:00
UTC+04 - 16:00 to 18:00 - 08:00 to 12:00 - 23:00 to 01:00
UTC+05 - 15:00 to 17:00 - 07:00 to 11:00 - 22:00 to 00:00
UTC+06 - 14:00 to 16:00 - 06:00 to 10:00 - 21:00 to 23:00
UTC+07 - 13:00 to 15:00 - 05:00 to 09:00 - 20:00 to 22:00
UTC+08 - 12:00 to 14:00 - 04:00 to 08:00 - 19:00 to 21:00
UTC+09 - 11:00 to 13:00 - 03:00 to 07:00 - 18:00 to 20:00
UTC+10 - 10:00 to 12:00 - 02:00 to 06:00 - 17:00 to 19:00
UTC+11 - 09:00 to 11:00 - 01:00 to 05:00 - 16:00 to 18:00
UTC+12 - 08:00 to 10:00 - 00:00 to 04:00 - 15:00 to 17:00

[Steroids]

If only, this stopped them from suggesting it again and again.

[Feone]

If only, this stopped them from suggesting it again and again.

Making it sticky might.

[Steroids]

Making it sticky might.

Doubt it. So far, I've concluded that these people do not care what others say, and will post what's on their mind even if they see a clear post saying they shouldn't. Most of these suggestions are ignorant anyway.

[Melody⋆]

This link will now be my reply to every thread I see of this idea.

In all seriousness though, thank you for providing a logical explanation as to why this suggestion has been rejected in the past.

[SorenWolfen]

Well put Steroids.

[LazyOne]

I just wounder why for Europe and Asia it's 2 hours while for America 4 hours?

P.S. I still believe TW time could be adjusted to suit more active players.

[Δ]

Great way of showing this problem  Shows well why TW/NW times just can't&won't be changed.

@LazyOne: You have all possible timezones. Which one would be better in ur opinion?

[Melody⋆]

I just wounder why for Europe and Asia it's 2 hours while for America 4 hours?

P.S. I still believe TW time could be adjusted to suit more active players.

Because the majority of the population of players from EU and Asia would only cover those timezones, whereas over the Americas, the population would be more spread out across all their timezones, particularly considering the more condensed areas of population are the East and West coast, which are obviously far apart. The idea wasn't to cover the entirety of those continents, but rather the condensed area of populations that play here.

[Feone]

I just wounder why for Europe and Asia it's 2 hours while for America 4 hours?

P.S. I still believe TW time could be adjusted to suit more active players.

I went with the timezones that grabbed the most common places EPW players live (As far as I know.).  The North American area is wider than the areas in europe/eastern asia, hence it covers a few more timezones.

Edit-

The eastern asia area (China, Korea, Phillipines being the most common ones for EPW I think) are all in largely similar timezones too.

Western/central europe has it's timezone spread across a bit wider area than the zones in the united states as well.

[Skorge]

Because the majority of the population of players from EU and Asia would only cover those timezones, whereas over the Americas, the population would be more spread out across all their timezones, particularly considering the more condensed areas of population are the East and West coast, which are obviously far apart.

Tangle so wise come marry 

[LazyOne]

@LazyOne: You have all possible timezones. Which one would be better in ur opinion?

With current chart this one:

UTC+03 - 17:00 to 19:00 - 09:00 to 13:00 - 00:00 to 02:00

should suite more players, because for Europe should not be problem if TW will start few hours early as now, and for Asia hours after midnight will almost perfect time when they still dont sleep.

And it's very easy find perfect time - check when mass PK are msot active with guilds all over world and you will know perfect time for server events 

[Feone]

I wonder what'd happen with TW if server time was rotated. (1 month optimal time Europe, 1 month optimal America, 1 month optimal Asia, repeat).

[Darunia ஜ]

STICKY THIS. NOW. Please?

In the past 15 months I've been on this server, this question would would pop up at least once every 2-3 months, mostly by those in Asian timezones.  I understand that that's the time yall need to sleep, but either way, someone is inconvenienced by the TW times.  Personally, unless I'm already up at 6am (never), I wouldn't sac sleep for a game.

I wish there was a way it can be translated into Tagalog so that some of those who can't read written English can understand.

[firestorm01]

always someone to whine about not getting their way lol..grow up .It is a game if the event is when u sleep get over it.