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Make Marriages More Expensive

Offline Steroids

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It's a game, some people forget that.
To be married on a game is just that , not like it's real life..ya know?
Can't thank you enough for that.

Offline Danidv

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As far as I know, I was the only one joking about weddings. Not sure how things have changed in the past 2 days. And I quit on that. Too lazy to work on 666, especially since people like you and the starter of this thread started complaining. Might resume someday though, keep your hate bottled up till then.

After some searching I finally found the old post

Give it a read, main posts:
Read and i guess you make a point. I still hold my opinion but i understand yours and those who support yours.

As for the hate, i have no hate towards you, nor anyone when it comes to weddings tbh. I was actually wondering how far you'd go and thought that soon after 100 or 150 you'd give up. Back to the hate, i have no problem with you nor anyone for wanting to marry someone, dispite their reasons for such a desire, just (again zzzzzz) i consider it something special, though as you quoted, it doesn't really do any harm, just makes it more casual. And with Aga trying to do anything with marriages or the packs again it's just unnecessary work, so i now have no desire for any changes while there are other things that can be worked on. *Flies away from thread*
Last Edit: Mar 03, 2014, 08:42 pm by Danidv

Offline Resolve

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Making it 1k ec is a little too much, ijs. Normally I don't have that much and I switch mains a lot, and I like to stay married to my boyfriend on my main, lol. Dat spouse tele.

150 MQ hearts is over 2 months of doing those quests, every day. No thanks, I barely do my BQ and BH on my main everyday.

Not everyone wants to get married, so adding a piece of gear you can only get from the Elder would be highly unfair, same with the fashion and items, unless they were tradeable.

People have already brought up ideas for marriages and how to make them less abused, and those might be added in the next patch, who knows. There's gonna be redchat spam anyways, and if there's someone constantly spamming about getting a wife, or trolling, you do have a blacklist, you know?
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Offline AlmostFamous

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Alright, I know on normal PWI, marriages are crazy expensive, and they're taken a lot more seriously because of it, or not depending on the wealthy people who just don't care. In general though, marriage on this server is taken as a complete joke from what I've seen... So my suggestion is:

~ 1. Make it more expensive. (Probably around 1k+ EC as that is decently expensive)
~ 2. Make it so people have really nice rewards for completing a LOT of marriage quests. (Preferably exclusive rewards so that marriage is seen as a positive thing to achieve)

Right now, there's nothing really too exclusive from it and there's no incentive to stay married. I personally am getting tired of the spamming on WC of people asking for a multitude of wives to add to a list, or just simply trolling.

Some ideas for rewards:

~1. An exclusive helm that's for level 150 that's better than the Dragon Helm (Doesn't have to be tons better, BUT even a little better would be nice and an incentive for people to go for it) and that would cost at LEAST 150+ MQ hearts.
~2. Add some items like Event Tokens, Super Level Scrolls, Supply Tokens, etc.
~3. Add some new fashion/mounts/flyers that are marriage quest exclusive and require at least 30+ hearts to obtain. (You can even make a fashion design contest for the fashion if you want to)

Pw = game. People have fun in different ways and as far as im aware nobody made you king/queen of how to have fun  :police:
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Offline Meese

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Who really cares how many times people get married? Its just a game and most of the time, marriage is done for the lols (see: Steroids). Its not interfering with anyone's day so I don't see how it's a problem. Having exclusive marriage items that basically just reward getting married would create an unfair advantage to those that don't get married in-game (like myself). Things are fine as is, not to mention there are far more important things Agatio has to deal with.

Offline Steroids

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lel wall of text
Mine was long XD

Back to the point, I was saying in general, wasn't pointing fingers at you, sorry about that. And with my terminal exams coming closer, I'm "made" to study so I can't waste time farming ec for packs and looking for wives. But all those girls who want to marry me so they could try and get me to pay for their shit, you just have to wait 3 weeks :D

About the seriousness, nothing and I really mean nothing can make marriages serious at this point. If its 1k ec per marriage, they won't be serious, they'll be extinct. Server has been up for 2 years, and its seen its fair share of trolls. Donky, ibi, me (maybe more) and there will be more of course. (Just saying, its the easiest way to be popular, even if in the wrong way....and no, that's not why I did it, I just lost faith in marriages and lashed out)

I was pretty active today, and I didn't even see that many marriages. And those that got married were fully unknown and no one got married twice. And there haven't been marriage spams in a long time, especially since Agatio said that people that do it will be banned.

And if you're complaining about the "LF a wife" spam in wc, the trade messages, "LFM for BH ___", "____ recruiting..." and especially the talk after a mass pk or event is just the same. We just want to let our interests be known to a wider audience though most of the players have wc turned off, which is good.
Who really cares how many times people get married? Its just a game and most of the time, marriage is done for the lols (see: Steroids). Its not interfering with anyone's day so I don't see how it's a problem. Having exclusive marriage items that basically just reward getting married would create an unfair advantage to those that don't get married in-game (like myself). Things are fine as is, not to mention there are far more important things Agatio has to deal with.

Pw = game. People have fun in different ways and as far as im aware nobody made you king/queen of how to have fun  :police:
Kinda. I got bored after I got my ws belt, cube neck and r8. I'm PvE so, getting "perfect" gear is not really my concern, I was fine with just endgame gear. I still had ec left and felt like using it to have some laughs.....who knew all of this would happen?

Angelring13

If that is your opinion, that is fine. An opinion is just that, a subjective opinion. I really would rather you just state yours without dismissing or demeaning mine in a negative way.

1k-2.5k EC a pack seems about right to me for marriage, in PWI it was something special and even in some other private servers, it was something a little more rare than it is here. Also, that's not an unreasonable amount to farm for it. Marriage is treated as a joke, and to me it shouldn't be, if that's not your opinion, fine, but do not belittle me for mine please. I treat it as something special and meaningful even if it is on a GAME, it still involves REAL people with REAL feelings. Sure some people will take it as just a game, no attachment, that's fine, that's your choice. Same with people who only marry friends, that's fine too, no one is saying its not nor denying you the ability to treat it as such. Please stop assuming and getting defensive.

As for marriage quest, it should not be a waste of time, nor treated as a joke either, I personally went the 300+ days of doing MQ in the normal game to get that teleport to your spouse skill on PWI and it was plenty worth it to me. That's 10 months of doing that quest. It WAS something special when I achieved that and I like long haul rewards for long term goals. It adds a sense of achievement which is vital to the health of MMOs in general and this game has very few long term goals since most everything can be farmed quickly, easily and then we're just expected to PK the rest of our days and be satisfied? Sorry, that's not where I find my fun, my personal fun is from achieving long term goals and accomplishing things, that's what keeps me hooked to a game, otherwise I get bored and move on quickly.

Its not just the spam of people marrying that's the problem, its the attitudes behind it and the misogyny that breaks out unpunished on WC about it that I find rather offensive.

And how is something exclusive to anything excluding others? If you don't think its worth while to go for it, then don't, there's nothing stopping you from opting out of it. I said nothing about an overpowered helm that was game breaking and would make this game unbalanced, I only said something marginally better, which could mean anything from a tiny boost in HP, to something significant, but I was trying to keep the point at something only a bit better and quite costly for only that tiny increase. If its not worth it to you, that's fine, it would be to someone like me and perhaps some others. Also, it was a suggestion among other possible rewards.

Offline 𝓕 𝓪 𝔂 𝓮

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Exactly and any change mains? Try make me go bankrupt aw.

[3:49:15 PM] Rikky ♥: Any main change?
[3:49:22 PM] Rikky ♥: 56426677k ec

AND I NORMALLY PAY FOR THEM WDF.

Offline Resolve

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[3:49:15 PM] Rikky ♥: Any main change?
[3:49:22 PM] Rikky ♥: 56426677k ec

AND I NORMALLY PAY FOR THEM WDF.

LOOOOOOOOOOL hey I paid for like the first 29483904238 marriges we had.


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Offline 𝓕 𝓪 𝔂 𝓮

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LOOOOOOOOOOL hey I paid for like the first 29483904238 marriges we had.
ONLY BECAUSE YOU WERE LIKE "NO *** YOU IM GONNA PAY I ALREADY BOUGHT THEM"

Actually on topic:
Like people have said, this is a game, who the fck takes anything seriously ingame?

Panda_monium

If that is your opinion, that is fine. An opinion is just that, a subjective opinion. I really would rather you just state yours without dismissing or demeaning mine in a negative way.

1k-2.5k EC a pack seems about right to me for marriage, in PWI it was something special and even in some other private servers, it was something a little more rare than it is here. Also, that's not an unreasonable amount to farm for it. Marriage is treated as a joke, and to me it shouldn't be, if that's not your opinion, fine, but do not belittle me for mine please. I treat it as something special and meaningful even if it is on a GAME, it still involves REAL people with REAL feelings. Sure some people will take it as just a game, no attachment, that's fine, that's your choice. Same with people who only marry friends, that's fine too, no one is saying its not nor denying you the ability to treat it as such. Please stop assuming and getting defensive.

As for marriage quest, it should not be a waste of time, nor treated as a joke either, I personally went the 300+ days of doing MQ in the normal game to get that teleport to your spouse skill on PWI and it was plenty worth it to me. That's 10 months of doing that quest. It WAS something special when I achieved that and I like long haul rewards for long term goals. It adds a sense of achievement which is vital to the health of MMOs in general and this game has very few long term goals since most everything can be farmed quickly, easily and then we're just expected to PK the rest of our days and be satisfied? Sorry, that's not where I find my fun, my personal fun is from achieving long term goals and accomplishing things, that's what keeps me hooked to a game, otherwise I get bored and move on quickly.

Its not just the spam of people marrying that's the problem, its the attitudes behind it and the misogyny that breaks out unpunished on WC about it that I find rather offensive.

And how is something exclusive to anything excluding others? If you don't think its worth while to go for it, then don't, there's nothing stopping you from opting out of it. I said nothing about an overpowered helm that was game breaking and would make this game unbalanced, I only said something marginally better, which could mean anything from a tiny boost in HP, to something significant, but I was trying to keep the point at something only a bit better and quite costly for only that tiny increase. If its not worth it to you, that's fine, it would be to someone like me and perhaps some others. Also, it was a suggestion among other possible rewards.
This is gunna happen with meridian system, dw
but, not wanting to sound like a dick or anything...but not everyone gets what they wants...just because marriage isnt expensive, doesnt mean that it should hold the same value to someone else just because you want it to.

if you wanna marry someone for a good reason, do it.
other peoples marriages shouldnt affect your life... ijs  :-X

Offline Steroids

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Quote from: Angelring13
If that is your opinion, that is fine. An opinion is just that, a subjective opinion. I really would rather you just state yours without dismissing or demeaning mine in a negative way.
I'm not trying to demean you in anyway, I quite enjoyed the MQ and would still do it but almost no wife is ready to do it.

Quote from: Angelring13
1k-2.5k EC a pack seems about right to me for marriage, in PWI it was something special and even in some other private servers, it was something a little more rare than it is here. Also, that's not an unreasonable amount to farm for it. Marriage is treated as a joke, and to me it shouldn't be, if that's not your opinion, fine, but do not belittle me for mine please. I treat it as something special and meaningful even if it is on a GAME, it still involves REAL people with REAL feelings. Sure some people will take it as just a game, no attachment, that's fine, that's your choice. Same with people who only marry friends, that's fine too, no one is saying its not nor denying you the ability to treat it as such. Please stop assuming and getting defensive.
To start with, I did not get defensive, I merely pointed out why I do it. 1k - 2.5k....now, do you REALLY feel someone would use it for a marriage? This would give a really unfair advantage to old players (kinda like the old claws but there are only 5 - 10 of those) since it would be really tough to get a Diamond Ring. I personally helped a few of my friends (yeah, shocking but I do have friends) get their diamond rings and it would cause chaos in the future if it was made tougher to get one. Again, you speak about real people and real feelings. There are a lot of trolls out there. Probably some old man who has an internet connection trying to act like a 16 year old girl, do you really want to waste 1k ec on something like that and later find out? Can you imagine how much you would rage if this happens to you?

Quote from: Angelring13
As for marriage quest, it should not be a waste of time, nor treated as a joke either, I personally went the 300+ days of doing MQ in the normal game to get that teleport to your spouse skill on PWI and it was plenty worth it to me. That's 10 months of doing that quest. It WAS something special when I achieved that and I like long haul rewards for long term goals. It adds a sense of achievement which is vital to the health of MMOs in general and this game has very few long term goals since most everything can be farmed quickly, easily and then we're just expected to PK the rest of our days and be satisfied? Sorry, that's not where I find my fun, my personal fun is from achieving long term goals and accomplishing things, that's what keeps me hooked to a game, otherwise I get bored and move on quickly.
I get this and fully support you here. As I'm PvE and I hate PK, I wouldn't mind having something else to farm. Also, if you're interested in long term farming for something, you could try getting a warsoul weapon.

Quote from: Angelring13
Its not just the spam of people marrying that's the problem, its the attitudes behind it and the misogyny that breaks out unpunished on WC about it that I find rather offensive.
So, does this mean that you support the idea of a male having to pay for his in-game wife's gear. Not just gear, whatever she wants. Won't that mean women depend on men? Do you want this old policy to be renewed? Cuz I'm against it. Men and women are equal, I don't see why the girl has to depend on the guy.


but, not wanting to sound like a dick or anything...but not everyone gets what they wants...just because marriage isnt expensive, doesnt mean that it should hold the same value to someone else just because you want it to.

if you wanna marry someone for a good reason, do it.
other peoples marriages shouldnt affect your life... ijs  :-X
I have seen serious marriages, no doubt. And I do support them. A friend of mine met his real fiancee on a server of PW and I respect that. Just because I think marriages aren't serious doesn't mean yours isn't.

Offline Resolve

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ONLY BECAUSE YOU WERE LIKE "NO *** YOU IM GONNA PAY I ALREADY BOUGHT THEM"

Actually on topic:
Like people have said, this is a game, who the fck takes anything seriously ingame?

LOOOOL cuz the man is supposed to do it??? and hey I take these full serious serious gamer any challenge?


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Offline 𝓕 𝓪 𝔂 𝓮

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If that is your opinion, that is fine. An opinion is just that, a subjective opinion. I really would rather you just state yours without dismissing or demeaning mine in a negative way.

1k-2.5k EC a pack seems about right to me for marriage, in PWI it was something special and even in some other private servers, it was something a little more rare than it is here. Also, that's not an unreasonable amount to farm for it. Marriage is treated as a joke, and to me it shouldn't be, if that's not your opinion, fine, but do not belittle me for mine please. I treat it as something special and meaningful even if it is on a GAME, it still involves REAL people with REAL feelings. Sure some people will take it as just a game, no attachment, that's fine, that's your choice. Same with people who only marry friends, that's fine too, no one is saying its not nor denying you the ability to treat it as such. Please stop assuming and getting defensive.

As for marriage quest, it should not be a waste of time, nor treated as a joke either, I personally went the 300+ days of doing MQ in the normal game to get that teleport to your spouse skill on PWI and it was plenty worth it to me. That's 10 months of doing that quest. It WAS something special when I achieved that and I like long haul rewards for long term goals. It adds a sense of achievement which is vital to the health of MMOs in general and this game has very few long term goals since most everything can be farmed quickly, easily and then we're just expected to PK the rest of our days and be satisfied? Sorry, that's not where I find my fun, my personal fun is from achieving long term goals and accomplishing things, that's what keeps me hooked to a game, otherwise I get bored and move on quickly.

Its not just the spam of people marrying that's the problem, its the attitudes behind it and the misogyny that breaks out unpunished on WC about it that I find rather offensive.

And how is something exclusive to anything excluding others? If you don't think its worth while to go for it, then don't, there's nothing stopping you from opting out of it. I said nothing about an overpowered helm that was game breaking and would make this game unbalanced, I only said something marginally better, which could mean anything from a tiny boost in HP, to something significant, but I was trying to keep the point at something only a bit better and quite costly for only that tiny increase. If its not worth it to you, that's fine, it would be to someone like me and perhaps some others. Also, it was a suggestion among other possible rewards.

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any challenge?

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scatterer3

1kEC? Poor Steroids...