Im not the one who originally suggested it. If you want EC its an option. Your not out to TW or PK, your simple out to make EC. If i had more time ide search through forums and find the post of the GM who did suggest that very thing.
Make your own alt guild, get a guild base, and solo trials. You'll get upwards of 6k EC a week, if you finish them all.
As a player who uses dragon armor normally with the occasional r8r for tankyness. (One who has attempted to get good r8r adds on both veno and sin.) I feel the current system is fine. It is ridiculous how overpowered some sets of r8r adds are and as such it should be just as ridiculously hard to get these adds. Any reduction in difficulty will immediately mean more people get "perfect" adds and this makes all non-perfect statted r8r as well as dragon gear that much more obsolete. It wouldn't hurt maybe to remove the absolute useless stats and then adjust the awesome stats to be that much more rare as well. Essentially keeping stats like -int/chan, -reduc phys/mag taken, +elemental / physical defense% equally rare but adding the rolls that currently yield useless adds to decent stuff like +stat or +pdef/mdef/hp. This would make it a lot easier to get okish adds while at the same time not adding more OP adds to the server. On this note adding +movement speed to the possiblities would be something I'd love to have.Also note, that as a player with TM cape, warsong/cube neck and full dragon gear the players with amazing r8r adds can simply 1shot me at times, no not with powerfull combo's like seekers can do or heavy attacks like full vit barb arma zerkcrit. Just a plain old simple crit hit from for example a wizard or psy attack. PWI style. A lot of people play private server to get away from constantly being 1shot regardless of how good your gear is and while getting a slight advantage in gear in exchange for significant efford is fine the advantage should not, ever, be so high that all those without it become weak and/or obsolete by default. The current system is fine imo, while the insane adds might be OP they are so hard to get that they are rare enough to not be that much of an issue. I do feel -0.15 bracers and the way some classes get way more out of r8r than others should be addressed, but that's another discussion entirely.Oh, and to all the people who are just flaming others:
i spent so much ECs trying to get x4 def levels on weap. and never succeeded until eventually settling for an alternative. i still think r8 is fair and good for the game. It's just our luck and the stats we aim for that will determine how many ECs we spend. If you don't have enough ECs you can just settle for "lesser" stats compared to your goal. Dragon Gear is also viable. have fun. :smiley:
I think EPW should either increase the ec drop or increase the chance of getting good stat. Like TS, I had also spend like couple of thousand of ec just to get reasonable stats and still trying. Anyway by suggesting or giving honest feedback about ec, most of the times, ppl always simply accuse u are greedy or lazy which are baseless accusation, if not they'll say its gonna hurt the economy. So wth really gonna to hurt the ingame economy so much ec, in the end the ec price in the forges are still fixed and tons of ec still dump into the reshape forges. Of cos, u can simply say it is easy to farm or easy to get the stats if you have plenty of time or you get your stats on the first few tries... it really frustrating when u manage to farm some ec and then you get poor stats.
Quote from: l7ixil7I think EPW should either increase the ec drop or increase the chance of getting good stat. Like TS, I had also spend like couple of thousand of ec just to get reasonable stats and still trying. Anyway by suggesting or giving honest feedback about ec, most of the times, ppl always simply accuse u are greedy or lazy which are baseless accusation, if not they'll say its gonna hurt the economy. So wth really gonna to hurt the ingame economy so much ec, in the end the ec price in the forges are still fixed and tons of ec still dump into the reshape forges. Of cos, u can simply say it is easy to farm or easy to get the stats if you have plenty of time or you get your stats on the first few tries... it really frustrating when u manage to farm some ec and then you get poor stats.How many topics are you gonna cry in about people disagreeing with your 2x scroll?increasing drop rates WILL hurt the economy. So what if people are using some to make gear other people will be using it to buy other stuff that doesn't take money out of the economy.say I get 30 ec a hour in the first pv. double that and its 60 ec I am now farming stuff double the rate I was before now if everyone on the server starts pulling in double what they get isnt all gonna be used on rank 8 reforge now is it? say I farm for 24 hours on nothing but EC what exactly would happen if I increased to double? People who think it won't hurt the economy aren't greedy they are just dumb.
...you can just settle for "lesser" stats compared to your goal. Dragon Gear is also viable. have fun. :smiley:
Quote from: EscorianQuote from: l7ixil7I think EPW should either increase the ec drop or increase the chance of getting good stat. Like TS, I had also spend like couple of thousand of ec just to get reasonable stats and still trying. Anyway by suggesting or giving honest feedback about ec, most of the times, ppl always simply accuse u are greedy or lazy which are baseless accusation, if not they'll say its gonna hurt the economy. So wth really gonna to hurt the ingame economy so much ec, in the end the ec price in the forges are still fixed and tons of ec still dump into the reshape forges. Of cos, u can simply say it is easy to farm or easy to get the stats if you have plenty of time or you get your stats on the first few tries... it really frustrating when u manage to farm some ec and then you get poor stats.How many topics are you gonna cry in about people disagreeing with your 2x scroll?increasing drop rates WILL hurt the economy. So what if people are using some to make gear other people will be using it to buy other stuff that doesn't take money out of the economy.say I get 30 ec a hour in the first pv. double that and its 60 ec I am now farming stuff double the rate I was before now if everyone on the server starts pulling in double what they get isnt all gonna be used on rank 8 reforge now is it? say I farm for 24 hours on nothing but EC what exactly would happen if I increased to double? People who think it won't hurt the economy aren't greedy they are just dumb.^"waah waaaah my 2x scroll idea was so good you're all just too st00pid to appreciate it waaah waah"
Quote from: EscorianQuote from: l7ixil7I think EPW should either increase the ec drop or increase the chance of getting good stat. Like TS, I had also spend like couple of thousand of ec just to get reasonable stats and still trying. Anyway by suggesting or giving honest feedback about ec, most of the times, ppl always simply accuse u are greedy or lazy which are baseless accusation, if not they'll say its gonna hurt the economy. So wth really gonna to hurt the ingame economy so much ec, in the end the ec price in the forges are still fixed and tons of ec still dump into the reshape forges. Of cos, u can simply say it is easy to farm or easy to get the stats if you have plenty of time or you get your stats on the first few tries... it really frustrating when u manage to farm some ec and then you get poor stats.How many topics are you gonna cry in about people disagreeing with your 2x scroll?increasing drop rates WILL hurt the economy. So what if people are using some to make gear other people will be using it to buy other stuff that doesn't take money out of the economy.say I get 30 ec a hour in the first pv. double that and its 60 ec I am now farming stuff double the rate I was before now if everyone on the server starts pulling in double what they get isnt all gonna be used on rank 8 reforge now is it? say I farm for 24 hours on nothing but EC what exactly would happen if I increased to double? People who think it won't hurt the economy aren't greedy they are just dumb.Seriously, people like you should keep your dumb comment to yourself and are you so dumb that you cannot even read this thread that did I still mention about the 2x scroll. Anyway the 2x scroll thingy was post in the suggestion unless you are trying to hint gm to remove the suggestion thread and ppl like you should be proud that you always try to silence others ppl suggestion, maybe you should try to suggest something and get a feel how ppl respond to your thread... Btw you think everyone is like you, always farm for ec, 24 hours farming? Or are you trying to hint that you are using bot..hmm.. so can you really explain how exactly will it be hurt the economy? Thanks for insulting players like me and the rest for dumb...
C'mon guys - RNG is RNG, that's the fun about rolling R8, one will get their stats in few rolls others will spend N amount of EC to do the same. Removing the "useless" stats will just ends as anyone running around with same gear.