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2 of the most outstanding problems with mass PK/TW

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Buff ct ea lmfao
add +5 atk lvls to ea

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add +5 atk lvls to ea


+ give back CT choco)

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Biggest issue on this server is that APS is the main way of damage for pretty much every melee class and that DPH became useless due to the constant increasing of physical attack which buffed APS more than DPH due to the fast attack speed

Meridian, cards and now star chart... Note that skill sender didn't help much at all when it comes to dph classes because they rely on hard hitting zerk crits and not faster attacks
good patch HEHEHEHHEH

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Reading your first post leads me to the conclusion that this thread is coming from a butthurt person who's never played cleric before and has a hard time making himself useful as assassin.

Regarding TW:
The russian TW cheese strategy is based on 25+ clerics and mystics healing, purifying and reviving one another. It only works because you can't kill all of them at once and within the timeframe you take to kill one of them through all the heals another is already back up, lost the seal upon revive and the cycle starts over.

It has hardly anything to do with individual def whatsoever.
 

Regarding the assassin buff:
You should go check out zFlashx's youtube channel. It might contain some useful information for you.


Regarding the cleric nerf:
I dare you to walk 1 or 2 weeks in a clerics shoes and actively participate in rpk, mass pk and tw as a support ep before you even think about making such suggestions again.


¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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EP Def is fine imo, is the sin's DPH Dmg lacking vs buffs
A way around it would be boosting the attack buffs from WB/EP thus making them reliable in mass pk to cancel the def camp
It's not my idea, it's Teru's and I kind of agree with it
what 
good patch HEHEHEHHEH

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what
As far as i remember it was u who said it or noel
I think Noel

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Reading your first post leads me to the conclusion that this thread is coming from a butthurt person who's never played cleric before and has a hard time making himself useful as assassin.

Regarding TW:
The russian TW cheese strategy is based on 25+ clerics and mystics healing, purifying and reviving one another. It only works because you can't kill all of them at once and within the timeframe you take to kill one of them through all the heals another is already back up, lost the seal upon revive and the cycle starts over.

It has hardly anything to do with individual def whatsoever.
 

Regarding the assassin buff:
You should go check out zFlashx's youtube channel. It might contain some useful information for you.


Regarding the cleric nerf:
I dare you to walk 1 or 2 weeks in a clerics shoes and actively participate in rpk, mass pk and tw as a support ep before you even think about making such suggestions again.


¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You really have no clue what spawn based killing really is do you?
Killing a person in your base is an indirect advantage to you in that situation because spawns are closer to you no matter what.
''Regarding the assassin buff:
You should go check out zFlashx's youtube channel. It might contain some useful information for you."

haha you're so far up his ass that you don't realise that this is a sin problem, not my problem.


Here I will show you his perspective:
[11/01/2017 18:19:59] Mark: you use aps in mass pk?
[11/01/2017 19:17:05] Marko: no
[11/01/2017 19:19:17] Mark: can you consistently solo eps?
[11/01/2017 20:57:15] Marko: Nope lol
[11/01/2017 20:57:42] Mark: and you're talking
[11/01/2017 20:57:47] Mark: about tyrants/triade+ others?
[11/01/2017 20:57:51] Mark: or just tyrants/triade
[11/01/2017 20:58:08] Marko: Good players only
[11/01/2017 20:58:22] Marko: So ye those eps i guess
[11/01/2017 20:58:27] Mark: yh
[11/01/2017 20:58:34] Mark: that's my view too
[11/01/2017 20:58:36] Marko: I dont bother with eps
[11/01/2017 20:59:32] Mark: you don't because you can't consistently kill them
[11/01/2017 20:59:38] Mark: or you don't target them
[11/01/2017 20:59:40] Mark: to kill others?
[11/01/2017 21:01:56] Marko: I dont because they dont dir
[11/01/2017 21:02:00] Marko: Die
[11/01/2017 21:02:14] Mark: exactly
[11/01/2017 21:02:20] Mark: and sin was meant to be
[11/01/2017 21:02:23] Mark: a backline raper
[11/01/2017 21:02:24] Mark: right?
[11/01/2017 21:02:30] Marko: ye

Don't assume shit when you never played sin in your life, let alone talk shit to someone who was consistently at the top when he tried to play this game.

Regarding the cleric nerf:
I dare you to walk 1 or 2 weeks in a clerics shoes and actively participate in rpk, mass pk and tw as a support ep before you even think about making such suggestions again.



EP is the easiest class in this game to play. There is nothing else that requires less skill than that class, how deluded you must be to think that your class requires any mechanical knowledge whatsoever. The only thing you class can ''in theory'' require is movement and positioning, none of which have high skillcaps and not only that, but you don't even have good positioning anyway. You just go into the air and think that that requires skill?


What you idiots think is that because some guy such as sebi killed leizo 1/10 times it can be treated at absolute 50/50 odds...

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You really have no clue what spawn based killing really is do you?
Killing a person in your base is an indirect advantage to you in that situation because spawns are closer to you no matter what.
''Regarding the assassin buff:
You should go check out zFlashx's youtube channel. It might contain some useful information for you."

haha you're so far up his ass that you don't realise that this is a sin problem, not my problem.


Here I will show you his perspective:
[11/01/2017 18:19:59] Mark: you use aps in mass pk?
[11/01/2017 19:17:05] Marko: no
[11/01/2017 19:19:17] Mark: can you consistently solo eps?
[11/01/2017 20:57:15] Marko: Nope lol
[11/01/2017 20:57:42] Mark: and you're talking
[11/01/2017 20:57:47] Mark: about tyrants/triade+ others?
[11/01/2017 20:57:51] Mark: or just tyrants/triade
[11/01/2017 20:58:08] Marko: Good players only
[11/01/2017 20:58:22] Marko: So ye those eps i guess
[11/01/2017 20:58:27] Mark: yh
[11/01/2017 20:58:34] Mark: that's my view too
[11/01/2017 20:58:36] Marko: I dont bother with eps
[11/01/2017 20:59:32] Mark: you don't because you can't consistently kill them
[11/01/2017 20:59:38] Mark: or you don't target them
[11/01/2017 20:59:40] Mark: to kill others?
[11/01/2017 21:01:56] Marko: I dont because they dont dir
[11/01/2017 21:02:00] Marko: Die
[11/01/2017 21:02:14] Mark: exactly
[11/01/2017 21:02:20] Mark: and sin was meant to be
[11/01/2017 21:02:23] Mark: a backline raper
[11/01/2017 21:02:24] Mark: right?
[11/01/2017 21:02:30] Marko: ye

Don't assume shit when you never played sin in your life, let alone talk shit to someone who was consistently at the top when he tried to play this game.

Regarding the cleric nerf:
I dare you to walk 1 or 2 weeks in a clerics shoes and actively participate in rpk, mass pk and tw as a support ep before you even think about making such suggestions again.



EP is the easiest class in this game to play. There is nothing else that requires less skill than that class, how deluded you must be to think that your class requires any mechanical knowledge whatsoever. The only thing you class can ''in theory'' require is movement and positioning, none of which have high skillcaps and not only that, but you don't even have good positioning anyway. You just go into the air and think that that requires skill?


What you idiots think is that because some guy such as sebi killed leizo 1/10 times it can be treated at absolute 50/50 odds...
Nope
My point was that EP(self buff) defence seems ok from aps sin perspective atm but DPH Dmg is awful vs anything with more than 20k pdef (vanguard ep/seeker/wr/wb/vit wf/mystic)
Im all for a look into the DPH issue as I've said
As for aps, no1 uses aps in mass pk anymore coz of stormbringer buff there4 sin has 0 chance of taking down or even ''bothering'' an EP with rpdt on gear

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EP is the easiest class in this game to play. There is nothing else that requires less skill than that class, how deluded you must be to think that your class requires any mechanical knowledge whatsoever. The only thing you class can ''in theory'' require is movement and positioning, none of which have high skillcaps and not only that, but you don't even have good positioning anyway. You just go into the air and think that that requires skill?
that's why 95% of ep population is female

Offline Kia

EP is the easiest class in this game to play. There is nothing else that requires less skill than that class, how deluded you must be to think that your class requires any mechanical knowledge whatsoever. The only thing you class can ''in theory'' require is movement and positioning, none of which have high skillcaps and not only that, but you don't even have good positioning anyway. You just go into the air and think that that requires skill?
If you read carefully then you will find that i never said playing a cleric is hard or mechanically challenging by any means. All i did was ask you to check out both sides before making nerf demands but it looks like i hit a nerve by saying that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Offline Bill Dipperly

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Cleric defense is utterly disgusting it should be nerfed tbh, ive been rpking whole week with 3 -99 archers and it still takes us hell of a lot time to kill 1 cleric not to mention how long sin would need with infinite plume shells and purifies immobilize(shit class), about assassin(DPH one) they need theirs 5atk(lol joke that is nothing) or more back to their COTD skill its nerfed to the ground atm
Last Edit: Jan 12, 2017, 09:08 am by Maxy

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Sin should have their 119% physical attack mastery reduced back to 90% and given back the 15 attack levels to the set + the 5 from cotd, dph sin is supposed to scale with very high attack levels like black voodoo psy, at the moment we hit little to no dmg against classes who have high physical def.