2 of the most outstanding problems with mass PK/TW

[๖ۣۜĐomgrath]

As I said and Savi said, made it so that duskblade & stormbringer buffs are self-buff only, the problem would be ended quickly.

SB/DB buffs have completely made the PK dynamic reliant on buffs even more than before the new classes came, and with the gear players currently have it's even worse.

Fully buffed EP (VIT) + SB/DB Buffs = Virtually unkillable

[Glory49]

As I said and Savi said, made it so that duskblade & stormbringer buffs are self-buff only, the problem would be ended quickly.

SB/DB buffs have completely made the PK dynamic reliant on buffs even more than before the new classes came, and with the gear players currently have it's even worse.

Fully buffed EP (VIT) + SB/DB Buffs = Virtually unkilI 

I 100% agree with Domgrath, especially the SB buff, it makes the only viable damage output useless for melee classes (APS).
DPH sin has now become totally useless as we have lost like 30 attack level??? My sin has x3 Dex on every piece and gof x2 att dagger and the damage output isnt great enough to kill most classes, even the ones with extremely low Pdef, once they are buffed, DPH is out of the question. 

[Lexmau]

idk why you all complain about the sb buff when you can purge that and is 10 min cd the db 1 is a problem that u can't purge 

[Teru]

idk why you all complain about the sb buff when you can purge that and is 10 min cd the db 1 is a problem that u can't purge

Both aren't an issue imo

[Lill 🌶]

Nearly 2 years I'm asking a 10/15 def lvl nerf for EP.

Support EP is pointless to play since a long time. Survivability skills aren't even needed to play mass EP.
Nothing interessting or skilled in Support EP gameplay except heals rapidity from position/anticipation.

And DD EP became impossible to play against decent players.

Do something to EP please !
-15 Def lvl nerf on R8.
UVD -> +20Def lvl.
Increase Metal Mastery of 10% (Sage 25 -> 35% Demon 20 -> 30%).

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But yeah.. Support EP def is completely ridicule nearly more than sin def...

When someone who is skilled in his class says his class Def is broken . . . . There is something there 

[Martylka]

Fully buffed EP (VIT) + SB/DB Buffs = Virtually unkillable

Since when?
Sounds like all venos and purge bows dissapeared.
Good targetted (AAed) ep with one of those is almost insta killed, even on full def. I won't even mention other purging weapons like those r8 of warrior/barb couse noone bothering to use them even.

[zFlashx]

remove 1.5 sin skills and give 10 attack lvl 

[Martylka]

When someone who is skilled in his class says his class Def is broken . . . . There is something there

No not his class, he plays DD ep, he is not enjoying playing support ep - as he said.
Moreover, he wants more def on his DD ep. LUL.
Looks like defense gained from only vit points made all difference if vit ep is 'broken' AND his dd ep needs more def? Sounds pity? Maybe problem is in personality which doesn't fit to full support (so not existing alone and no shiny) class. NOT the def.

[Areashi]

No not his class, he plays DD ep, he is not enjoying playing support ep - as he said.
Moreover, he wants more def on his DD ep. LUL.
Looks like defense gained from only vit points made all difference if vit ep is 'broken' AND his dd ep needs more def? Sounds pity? Maybe problem is in personality which doesn't fit to full support (so not existing alone and no shiny) class. NOT the def.

You ever watched his videos? He tanks like 8 consistently for 2-3 mins. How is that not broken??? A good ep can survive for that long and that has only included like 2 so far. You're just a joke to your class if you main support and act like it's the hard knock life for you.

[Lill 🌶]

No not his class, he plays DD ep, he is not enjoying playing support ep - as he said.
Moreover, he wants more def on his DD ep. LUL.
Looks like defense gained from only vit points made all difference if vit ep is 'broken' AND his dd ep needs more def? Sounds pity? Maybe problem is in personality which doesn't fit to full support (so not existing alone and no shiny) class. NOT the def.

Leizo is not just one of the best DD ep's, he's really good at support too, he just doesn't play as much.
What he says about UVD makes sense. EP's can't swap gear in that state and their dmg is extremely combo based and rly easy to predict and just HOS (unless its the soulburn sht). So just like DB and SB when they get their reaper form (where their def goes up drastically), I don't see the harm in keeping ep's def similar to what is is now in UVD. 

[ツ atk]

1.) You guys put your life on this game..
2.) So intelligence in game, but irl cant apply.
3.) Sharing both knowledge when it comes to game ( try to do that in your daily leaving) 



#nerdEverywhereLOL

[Martylka]

You ever watched his videos? He tanks like 8 consistently for 2-3 mins. How is that not broken??? A good ep can survive for that long and that has only included like 2 so far. You're just a joke to your class if you main support and act like it's the hard knock life for you.

Arashisth you still talking and THIS is a real joke here honestly, you know nothing about eps AND don't even play anymore how you think your words matter anyhow? You're the last person to judge anyone here

[BriEsT]

What he says about UVD makes sense. EP's can't swap gear in that state and their dmg is extremely combo based and rly easy to predict and just HOS (unless its the soulburn sht). So just like DB and SB when they get their reaper form (where their def goes up drastically), I don't see the harm in keeping ep's def similar to what is is now in UVD.

 That sounds way better than giving 20def lvl but at the same time it could be very broken as well so idk if its smart to do anything to UVD, I mean the thing was designed to make you a full DD once you enter it so you know the risk already before you use it... idk 
 Also -1 to any def nerfs, 1 man should not be able to solo anything that camps defense gear.

[Kappa3]

Eps are fine the way they are, theyre pretty squishy (in def if aa'd right) and nerfing them will ruin them. Then bye bye ep mains. Ive personally been thinking how they needed to be buffed but ok