I disagree that rings need to be restricted from ea. But given as your points provided are poor, I'm going to argue them anyways. -To the same effect that ea's can be stunned in attack armor with luck, any class can. However this is derived entirely from player error, and is, in my opinion, completely irrelevant when discussing how the mathematical/balance side of pwi operates. Furthermore the problem with saying "Arguing that they're supposed to be glass-cannons on a server full of def-camping scripters is the most ridiculous sentiment I have ever heard." combined with the knowledge that "an EA can get instantly melted in channy gear." Is that magic rings are often the damage dealing ring of choice, meaning that they will have noticeably higher defense against magic classes BEFORE scripting into defense gear, while maintaining optimal attack. -Domgraths armor is quite optimal, and me and him don't really even like each other. Frankly your point 2 seems like nothing more than a personal assault, rather than a useful thought.-Accuracy complaints from the class with the highest accuracy, lol. -It is also just as irrelevant to include player LUCK in a discussion of armor balance, something concrete and equatable. Stun's will not fail to proc 50% of the time on average, the reason it will feel like that is because with instant channel you will be using your stun every 15 seconds. Which means on average it will fail once every 2 minutes in a 1vs1, about the same as your pots cooldown. But on a server where a player can die before their charm ticks, under certain circumstances it can become extremely factor to miss a stun, however it is to be expected. Literally. You should not be in full channel armor if your opponent is in a position where he can erase you before a charm tick anyways, or you could just as easily be erased by an enemy fortify/faith just as promptly and just as easily, WITHOUT stun proc even failing. Which is player error. It is not 100%, and I know the personal struggle with mountain seize. But that is simply how it is, individual player luck is irrelevant when discussing the proc rate of a skill. Stagalstrike will miss more than ea stun, as will a barbs knockdown. It's proc rate is comparably close to throatcut, actually, and you don't see sins complaining or crying about that. There is no class that's supposed to be as squishy as archer. They are MEANT to be low in defense, that is why the anti control skills are in place to compensate. And they have accomplished that well on this server, but there is no class who is supposed to equate them in raw status defense. A simple brief look at the classes skills will tell you that. (Anti control and kiting for days, more leaps than a wizard, more anti stuns than any single other class, speed buffs and skills to further encourage kiting,no actual DEFENSIVE passives, only evasion, which also encourages the "don't get hit at all is the best defense" strategy.) However even scripting ea's have low defense to match their attack in the grand scheme of things, so I disagree with domgrath anyways. But for different reasons. I do despise ea's who rage at other players who miss their rings, and use insults however. "If you need mag ring on barb to live quit game, if you need phys ring on veno uninstall life, ect." Um, hello? You're using a magic ring to DD. Wake up and smell the hypocrisy. Because you don't get the right to be the spoiled class who gets its own blessing/rings and STILL be a whiny spoiled brat about it. Eas used rings for offense, so when restrictions came you were spared the chopping block. The problem of course being that just because they were used for offense purposes, doesn't devalue them as defensive assets. You're spoiled, but not game breakingly. So don't be condescending pricks about it IMO. Be grateful.However I think seby's suggestion is absolutely and completely retarded. Frankly I hope it's a troll. The channel beats the attack boost for damage at the cost of raw attack for a REASON, your answer to restricted rings is to give them all the power COMBINED with none of the choice between power and speed, why not just have both I guess? GG. Personally I'm still very pissed that ea's get their own custom ea's only channel blessing at all. I just don't fight it because I know it's futile to argue against a population which of consists mostly of ea's about ea's.Tl:dr ea's are spoiled, but don't need a nerf. But they sure as HELL don't need a buff either. Give ea's an attack buff....that suggestion is worse than a domgrath suggestion. Can you imagine mass with ea's getting an even larger attack/channel buff? Lel. Just give ea's 100% channel blessing and full dex armor at that point and be done with it. Because balance and "class roles", amiright?
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Since when should EA (Literal glass-cannon type class) have (1) more MDEF than half of the other classes in-game, all the while (2) being almost instant-cast with R8R bow?I just watched some (3) random EA face-tank a fully geared magic class without any worries because the damage was so insignificant Why is this okay?It's almost as ridiculous as the Mystics that used to use double PDEF rings for defense, but for some reason it's alright because "MDEF RINGS ARE OKAY FOR EA'S BC CHANNY TYPE "And before you rant; I'm seeing this from a completely defense PoV, not the benefits for offensiveness.
ok. u sure showed me lMfaE. rekted.
according to domgrath, an ea who uses all mdef ornaments has more mdef than every magic class in the game (who doesn't use mdef ornaments)....IF THEY DID, ea's mdef will nowhere near be on par with any class, sorry but this is just retarded.......you want to nerf ea's because they use mdef ornaments and magic classes dont't?....they have the option to but they just chose not to.
WHAT ?to (1) what do you mean with half the classes? cleric, mg, myst, barb, bm, wiz, veno have more mdef then eato (2) there is no instant cast ea on the server with r8 besides Burdette. And you cant compare EAs gear with other classes. Half of the server plays EA and there is no other tryhard class that spend so much dama in gear then EA. do you even know how hard it is to get 9% on every part?
Since when should EA (Literal glass-cannon type class) have more MDEF than half of the other classes in-game, all the while being almost instant-cast with R8R bow?I just watched some random EA face-tank a fully geared magic class without any worries because the damage was so insignificant Why is this okay?It's almost as ridiculous as the Mystics that used to use double PDEF rings for defense, but for some reason it's alright because "MDEF RINGS ARE OKAY FOR EA'S BC CHANNY TYPE "And before you rant; I'm seeing this from a completely defense PoV, not the benefits for offensiveness.
Yes because we are 123 with or without MDEF... Script ... and all
