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Battle of the Races

Offline Chocolate

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Note: I am trying to make it as equal as possible, please read all notes below before commenting.


Fight layouts:
Untamed vs Tideborn
Elf vs Earthguard
Human vs Tideborn

As there are 5 races currently, one must overlap.

Rules
SoG is limited to 1 per Cleric
Ironridge knife/brew allowed
IG not allowed
Team buffs only
Cant leave squad to remove sleep
Rest is playoffs rules
Best of 5

Prizes:
Epic Coins
Event Tokens
Supply Tokens
A title depending on race



Please give feedback on the class vs class layouts and/or the prizes, however, comments without an explaination will be ignored. Please check the testing results below if you do not agree with the races above, if you still do not agree please PM me or leave a comment.

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Offline Seby

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veno counters wr/mg
untamed vs human sounds already 1 sided imo
unless the wb is sht and gets 2shot
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psys are like.. the easiest class i ever fought with my veno, all you need is will surge
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Offline Chocolate

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veno counters wr/mg
untamed vs human sounds already 1 sided imo
unless the wb is sht and gets 2shot

* barbs, It's 6v6 = 3 barbs, random GM made teams
I agree that untamed is slightly imbalanced for human however can you think of a better race? I couldn't :(

psys are like.. the easiest class i ever fought with my veno, all you need is will surge

Any good psy can last more than 5 minutes vs a venomancer, also it's 6v6 so please keep in mind the other classes. Also, don't forget about nullify poison.

Guys by feedback i'm thinking more 'this race would be better against this race' because I already know the negatives and positives of each of these i've already chosen. I put thought into it.
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* barbs, It's 6v6 = 3 barbs, random GM made teams
I agree that untamed is slightly imbalanced for human however can you think of a better race? I couldn't :(

Any good psy can last more than 5 minutes vs a venomancer, also it's 6v6 so please keep in mind the other classes. Also, don't forget about nullify poison.

Guys by feedback i'm thinking more 'this race would be better against this race' because I already know the negatives and positives of each of these i've already chosen. I put thought into it.
more wfs u got, worse it gets...
untamed would more likely to go vs seeker/mystic tbh
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How it will go:
Untamed vs Tideborn
- Purge is not as OP against assassin
- Venomancer vs Assassin can be most equal
- Psychic can be hard for veno because of seals and damage
- Barbarians are less tanky against sin

Elf vs Earthguard
- Mystic and Seeker can be deadly even for tanky clerics
- Both mystic and cleric have sleep
- Archer aa is deadly for any class
- Mystic and Cleric both have heals and can support

Human vs Untamed
- Untamed are only ones which are quite compatible for Human imo
- Wizard damage is really good to kill both
- Blademaster CC on venos can help the mg kill
- Genie spark and Knockdown (no explaination needed)
- Blademaster and Barbarians 2 most tanky classes

As there are 5 races, one must overlap.

Things to note:
SoG will be limited per Cleric
It will be 6v6, 3 of each class
Ironridge knife/brew allowed
IG not allowed
Cant leave squad to remove sleep
Rest is playoffs rules


Please give feedback on the class vs class layouts, however, comments without an explaination will be ignored. Testing will be done later today.

Well, the idea is good. But I would prefer it being Humans vs Earthguard.

Mostly due to the fact because venos will just destroy this. 3 novas and a stun free of charge on chi on a low CD and a pet stun, not to mention their immunity to CC with shapeshifting and movement speed to counter BM's chasing them. They don't even need barbs, as they will most likely just be their meatshield while they dominate the battleground.
As far as Earthguard goes, 

Mystics are strong vs MG, AS can destroy them, but they are weak to CC compared to Venos, They dont have as much dmg reduction and mobility. And this is where BM's come in handy.
And Seekers are pretty decent in Damage, semi-tanking and CC.
And both sides can heal. 

Offline Chocolate

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Well, the idea is good. But I would prefer it being Humans vs Earthguard.

Mostly due to the fact because venos will just destroy this. 3 novas and a stun free of charge on chi on a low CD and a pet stun, not to mention their immunity to CC with shapeshifting and movement speed to counter BM's chasing them. They don't even need barbs, as they will most likely just be their meatshield while they dominate the battleground.
As far as Earthguard goes,

Mystics are strong vs MG, AS can destroy them, but they are weak to CC compared to Venos, They dont have as much dmg reduction and mobility. And this is where BM's come in handy.
And Seekers are pretty decent in Damage, semi-tanking and CC.
And both sides can heal.

Very nice explanation thank you, and I completely agree with you. I'll change that.
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Very nice explanation thank you, and I completely agree with you. I'll change that.
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Offline Chocolate

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Untamed vs Tideborn - Suitable
Round 1 - Tideborn win - All tideborn survived | problems: many stuns
Round 2 - Untamed win - All survived
Round 3 - Untamed win - 3 barbs, 1 wf alive | problems: WB heiro'd 2 psychics
Round 4 - Tideborn win - 3 sins, 2 psys alive
Round 5 - Untamed win - 3 barbs, 1 wf alive
Conclusion: Untamed seems to have a small upperhand but it's as balanced as it can be.

Elf vs Earthguard - Suitable
Round 1 - Elf win - 2 eas, 2 eps alive | Problems: sleep
Round 2 - Elf win - All survived | problems: not good enough team work
Round 3 - Earthguard win - 3 seekers, 1 mystic alive
Round 4 - Earthguard win - all survived | problems: not enough cc once sog limit is max
Round 5 - Earthguard win - 2 seekers, 3 mystics alive
Conclusion: It can be balanced as long as everyone works together and creates a good plan, earthguards can have a slight upperhand

Human vs Earthguard - Unsuitable
Round 1 - Humans win - All survived | problems: lost of damage and CC stuns
Round 2 - Humans win - All survived
Round 3 - Humans win - All survived
Conclusion: Bad combination, 60-80k hits from MGs, CC is too much to handle, victory in a very short time

Human vs Untamed - Unsuitable
Round 1 - Untamed win - 3 wfs, 1 wb alive
Round 2 - Untamed win - 3 wfs, 1 wb alive
Round 3 - Humans win - All survived
Round 4 - Untamed win - 3 wfs, 2 wbs alive
Conclusion: Untamed has a big upperhand, without luck the humans have quite a low chance

Human vs Elf - Unsuitable
Round 1 - Human win - 2 mg, 3 wr | problems: no sog limit, seems to be an anomaly
Round 2 - Elf win - All survived
Round 3 - Elf win - All survived
Unable to do anymore testing as the squad left after someone was replaced for cursing
Conclusion: From the 2 fair rounds, it seems too imbalanced

Human vs Tideborn - Suitable
Round 1 - Humans win - 2 mg, 2 wr alive | round was very fast
Round 2 - Humans win - 2 mg, 3 wr alive | Psychics low defence makes them easy with CC
Round 3 - Humans win - 2 mg, 2wr alive
Round 4 - Tideborn win - 2 psy, 2 sin alive
Round 5 - Tie/Humans win - 2 wr alive but also 1 psy
Round 6 - Humans win - 2 wr, 1 mg alive
Conclusion: Not great but suitable enough


Overview:
Untamed vs Tideborn
Elf vs Earthguard
Human vs Tideborn

Last Edit: Nov 22, 2015, 06:12 pm by Chocolate
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seems a nice event.

and for sure there won't be a 100% balance, but it seems balanced enough, and winner will be the team with better teamwork/gears. (not a one sided pk)
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I only just remembered about this event so I'll be hosting it tonight, when I get home. I just need to think of rewards. 
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: ) when is tonite for u boss?
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: ) when is tonite for u boss?

About 2 hours boss, depends on things I have to do.
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hamid

no title for event o.o?
since i didnt get any