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Falling Petals as an AOE Buff

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Speaking from a Mass PK perspective, Falling Petals really helps when in a bind, especially if I have no chi to throw out Gaia's blessing + Vital/Healing herb, or when Salvation has died. Popping off a Falling Petal buff on myself, squad's EP or anyone else in squad comes in handy because the cooldown for it is instant and so is the channel for it. I don't know if this has been suggested yet, and it might not get approved, but cheers for hoping? I don't see how this would effect anyone other than the increased survivability of a squad in Mass PK.

To make it fair and somewhat useful in Mass PK, maybe make the AOE buff cooldown 5 minutes long and reduce the healing effect* when attacked from 30% to 15%-20% instead? We still get to keep the single buff of course, since I'm basing this off the fundementals for how Mystic Skill Resurrect/Mass Resurrection works.

*Edited because my brain didn't work for .5 seconds
Last Edit: Oct 19, 2015, 09:06 pm by ℬᴇғᴜᴅᴅʟᴇ

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i dont think this can be done since its a new skill all in itself lol

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i dont think this can be done since its a new skill all in itself lol
My friend told me that Falling Petals was able to be an AOE buff on Storm but the CD was 2 minutes instead of the 5 I suggested. If Agatio can lower the proc rate of certain add-ons on weapons and such, I'm sure he can figure out how to make a single buff an AOE buff. I have faith in our developer. :-[

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Would be cool +1
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To make it fair and somewhat useful in Mass PK, maybe make the AOE buff cooldown 5 minutes long and reduce the damage reduction when attacked from 30% to 15%-20% instead?
Falling Petals doesn't reduce received damage, what the heck?
Also, your suggestion by making it 5min cooldown would be actually a huge nerf for this skill.
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Falling Petals doesn't reduce received damage, what the heck?
Also, your suggestion by making it 5min cooldown would be actually a huge nerf for this skill.
My brain farted. But still, Falling petals heals the person being attacked. I guess I'm asking you to make it as a new skill entirely? :-X 
It's a pain having to single buff 10 people all at once. So I'm just trying to make it fair so that if falling petals were to be an AOE buff it would still be helpful in a way, but not effect gameplay/seem overpowered.

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Mystics already have Conforting Mist & Gaia`s Blessing and that makes 1 more than the ep has.  Another aoe heal would make the class even more op and they were never intended to be a full support class. 

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Mystics already have Conforting Mist & Gaia`s Blessing and that makes 1 more than the ep has.  Another aoe heal would make the class even more op and they were never intended to be a full support class.
Falling petals is already one of the 3 useful Mystic heals that we have that is spammable. I don't see how it hurts to make it an AOE? Comforting Mist has a 6 second CD time, Vital/Healing Herb + Gaia's blessing only lasts 12 seconds because without Gaia's blessing its doesn't do much (This particular heal isn't spammable).
I understand that Mystics were never inteded to be full support, but I don't see how asking for it to be AOE buff while asking for the healing rate to be reduced + long CD time could have any significant effect or make them op. :(

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Falling petals is already one of the 3 useful Mystic heals that we have that is spammable. 
It`s actually 1 of 4 

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Falling petals is already one of the 3 useful Mystic heals that we have that is spammable.
exactly, its spammable, so asking it to be aoe is just being lazy imo, -1.


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Am I right when I think you're trying to ask aga to make falling petals AOE at the cost of increasing the cooldown drastically?

That would be totally fvcked up in 1v1s. Falling petals is the only thing that keeps mystics alive. Increasing the cooldown to 5 minutes, of even 2, or 1, or even 30 seconds, would be rediculous from a 1v1 perspective. Sure, I suppose it's annoying to buff 10 people individually but then again, it's not really a buff. It's really a more convenient form of Ironheart Blessing that you can cast on your ally beforehand. It will sit there, wait for the ally to be attacked, and then start to heal. 
I understand why you suggested this and for mass pk alone it could work, but since there is more than mass pk this is a big no from me.

Something that MIGHT work is to introduce a primal version of falling petals making it this aoe heal, so that people could choose to get it. People who only mass pk can consider, the rest can just keep the normal version.
Actually when I think about it, I could +1 a new suggested like that.
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+1 Imo it would be helpful and no real reason not to besides "laziness"
9/10 mystics are support in mass, and they buff everyone anyway and it has a decent cooldown. Making it a pt buff is efficient especially if youre in mass pk and your pt is getting wiped. It doesnt heal for that much especially if youre vs factions that aa well. Mystic cds are long and plants dont heal for all that much. 

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