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Best PK class (Balance issues)

Offline geriatrix

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I know people playing Demon Sin and being happy winners.
I know posts claiming that Sage Sin wins most of 1v1 events.
I know Sins killed by Psy or BM.
I know Barbs tanking gang and killing most or all of the attackers.
I know more, but let's keep this post short.

So, if you don't want to hear "the one you can learn deep
and love it", then I don't think we can tell you much.

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I don't PK, but let me compare it with mob fight:

Seeker, BM or Barb can figt gangs or bosses alone.
Sin, Psy or Myst can not fight groups that big, but can kill boss faster.

If you are as good as you say, you can pwn with any class,
after enough time to "discover little secrets".

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For what I do in the game, I love to play Seeker, Sin and Cleric,
and just started discovering Psy.

In PWI I loved Cleric and Mystic the most, then Veno, but that was
before I started playing Epic.

And I simply love BM, the "Universal Soldier".
"Don't think about winning every battle in your life.
Think only about winning the current one."

But reconsider price. You might decide to lose.

Offline MorbidAngel

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Seeker are way too tuff for bm to kill without spark.
Not true, there are many aps combos for bm to kill a seeker. Not gonna say how but the seeker toughness depends on the playing style of that person. LA/HA seekers are squishy as hell and go down like a rock which is a majority of seekers. psychic is really squishy but powerful, easy to kill if u get past their defences. Sins dont make me laugh - worthless class id say but stunlock and proper debuffing hurts. The only possibility of a seeker being hard for a bm to kill is if your a Axe build bm - soon my sage bm

Morbid/\ngel - 150 seeker

Offline Cocor3

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They have the attack of warriors, the defense of archers, and very few ranged attacks.

....Lol sins have more dmg than a bm+ more stuns+more chi+ rib strike etc...


Offline LordTrav

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I dont think there are any OP classes. Yes some classes hit harder than others and some survive better, but all in all its about how you play. I have a 150 sage sin and I PvP alot. There are few classes that actually kill me quickly, magic classes hit hard obviously but are easy to kill, if you can get them to stand still. Archers are easy to kill again if you can catch them. Other sins its about the right skill combos and who knows their opponent better. BM and barbs are in my opinion some of the easiest to kill as a sin, only because they dont run and if you get one that does run prepare for a lengthy fight. The point being every class can kill every class, yes sometimes they will have a harder time but this server is pretty well balanced. Unless you are jumped buy multiple people, or just suck at your class, you will ALWAYS have a fighting chance.

Offline LordTrav

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....Lol sins have more dmg than a bm+ more stuns+more chi+ rib strike etc...
BM have higher phys def+marrows+healing+fire damage added to attacks. Its all about knowing your class and how to play it.

Offline Cocor3

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I dont think there are any OP classes. Yes some classes hit harder than others and some survive better, but all in all its about how you play. I have a 150 sage sin and I PvP alot. There are few classes that actually kill me quickly, magic classes hit hard obviously but are easy to kill, if you can get them to stand still. Archers are easy to kill again if you can catch them. Other sins its about the right skill combos and who knows their opponent better. BM and barbs are in my opinion some of the easiest to kill as a sin, only because they dont run and if you get one that does run prepare for a lengthy fight. The point being every class can kill every class, yes sometimes they will have a harder time but this server is pretty well balanced. Unless you are jumped buy multiple people, or just suck at your class, you will ALWAYS have a fighting chance.


well...atk lvl for casters seems op ...if you go def lvl gear your aps will suck bad...will take ages to kill with it

Offline LordTrav

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Not necessarily true. Im 2.86aps base (same as a full dragon gear sin) and I have 55 defense lvls. No that isnt alot but when you are standing against a caster that has 50+ it is a nice buffer to keep from getting one shot.

Offline Mr. Crowley

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Sins: squishy versions of warriors. Nonthreatening cowards choice of a class. Proceed with accidental AOE killing of this poor class.


You've never met an actual decent sin then. Assassins are supposed to be specialists. Not blind spark-n-go. As I can respect your opinion for the most part this comment sounds ignorant.
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Offline Sleip

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Just for the record, i never asked for an OP class. I just asked which is good in PK in comparison to the others

Offline Areashi

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Sin's dont really have many advantages. This is why i refuse to accept sins as an "OP" class. They have the attack of warriors, the defense of archers, and very few ranged attacks. They can be kited easily, and even with 67% chance to ignore debuffs,they still die easily. Sins seem like more of a PVE class, rather than pvp (with the exception of the holy sin, which when using a DPH setup, seems to hurt alot), but still squishy none the less. I said "lol" for psychics because they are simply a funny class. Not strong at all, but has SoS, which is such a retarded skill. A psy's role is determined by the voodoo that they use (White makes them more of a tank/support class, whereas black makes them a glass cannon).

I did not mean any offense when calling you a noob, though i did intend for you to feel my words. People need to worry less about what others deem "OP" and play their role in the game. Every class is valuable, and all of them are needed. All classes can tank, all classes can kill. Your armor, your skills, and your play style determines what your class will do, not what others feel your class can do. Im living proof of this, as for years i used a heavy armor holy mage, defying what others called (weak) while i was still considered one of the greatest mages to play (emprise) at the time.

As i have stated many times... this is 1.4, we are all a little OP at all times.

MageTank
Quite true. This is why the whole concept of the ''best sin'' nonsense is quite useless as well. There is no best sin, the only way a sin can be considered the best, is if he skill spams, and manages to roll fail aps'ers. And I know how much you guys hate Ryan but, He's the only one to actually have tried that.
KBai.

Offline ☠EvilTouch☠

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i doubt that there's a "best class in pk"
for me they all are great ;)
i held a 3vs3 today and o saw Clerics owning the place...at their own way of course :D

Offline Areashi

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i doubt that there's a "best class in pk"
for me they all are great ;)
i held a 3vs3 today and o saw Clerics owning the place...at their own way of course :D
Yh...but the fact remains that, as MT said prior, that Sins are way to Under Powered, I vote for 100% tidal!!! LOL.
KBai.

Offline Mr. Crowley

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Quite true. This is why the whole concept of the ''best sin'' nonsense is quite useless as well. There is no best sin, the only way a sin can be considered the best, is if he skill spams, and manages to roll fail aps'ers. And I know how much you guys hate Ryan but, He's the only one to actually have tried that.
KBai.


Lol. You sure he's the only one to try that?
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Offline Resolve

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cleric is the best class at pk nuff said  ;) they can drop anyone 321drop


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Offline Therras

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I dont think there are any OP classes. Yes some classes hit harder than others and some survive better, but all in all its about how you play. I have a 150 sage sin and I PvP alot. There are few classes that actually kill me quickly, magic classes hit hard obviously but are easy to kill, if you can get them to stand still. Archers are easy to kill again if you can catch them. Other sins its about the right skill combos and who knows their opponent better. BM and barbs are in my opinion some of the easiest to kill as a sin, only because they dont run and if you get one that does run prepare for a lengthy fight. The point being every class can kill every class, yes sometimes they will have a harder time but this server is pretty well balanced. Unless you are jumped buy multiple people, or just suck at your class, you will ALWAYS have a fighting chance.
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You've never met an actual decent sin then. Assassins are supposed to be specialists. Not blind spark-n-go. As I can respect your opinion for the most part this comment sounds ignorant.
I aggree with Mr. Crowley. Every single class is a challenge for a sin to kill, since we are the squishiest class ATM, you need more than spark+occult to kill a pro barb, or surviving to this wiz combo; spark-undine+ arcane defence. If you can correctly time Arcane defence effect, you can Aps this wiz to death or just go DPH like you already pointed out.

IMHO I find sins the hardest class to do PVP, this is exactly why I hate people complaining when a sin uses spark/stealth, most of us, just do it for purify or damage reduction or saying sins are "OP" lol. Our chances to survive to a 2v1 are very low, not to mention massive pker.

All these things, are the reason why I find it a challenge to play as a Assassin.-